[Bloat] COTS router with OpenWrt

Dave Taht dave.taht at gmail.com
Mon Nov 28 10:57:38 EST 2016

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 7:21 AM, Jonathan Foulkes
<JF at jonathanfoulkes.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the Introduction Rich, and thanks again to you and many others on this list for all your contributions over the years helping to combat bloat.
> This product was born of my own frustration with finding a way to help neighbors and family get a simple off-the-shelf solution that even non-technical users can deploy.

I hope that your marketing campaign is being successful on these
fronts. It has always been my goal to "enable better products", but
not have the headache of making them myself, where 99.99% of the
effort is (like in cerowrt), in making everything else "just work" and
be reliable enough to ship.

> I look forward to participating more actively on this list.

One of my thoughts has been since it has become so difficult in the
USA for an open source organization to achieve 501c3 status (icei.org
is now 5 years into their attempt) was to go the 501c6 route, like the
linux foundation. We now have a reasonable set of companies doing the
right things for queueing, updates, and so on, that perhaps banding
together to promote "less lag, regular updates" would be a way to
support some of the other costs of this effort, such as effective

> Jonathan
>> On Nov 26, 2016, at 9:08 AM, Rich Brown <richb.hanover at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have been exchanging a few emails with Jonathan Foulkes from evenroute.com. He tells me that his company is installing OpenWrt on a commercial, off the shelf (COTS) TP-Link router and selling them on commercially. His "secret sauce" is an auto-update facility and improved setup software, which includes a rate-detection step that operates continually to adjust the fq_codel parameters to the actual line rate. You can take a look at IQrouter.com, or look them up on Amazon.
>> This might be a solution to our current conundrum about not having an easy solution that solves our family's networking problem. I'm going to get one of these and try it out.
>> He has been following our bufferbloat and make-fifi-fast work closely, as well as the work on LEDE, which he'll consider once it hits a stable point. I have invited him to join this list.
>> Welcome, Jonathan.
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Dave Täht
Let's go make home routers and wifi faster! With better software!

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