[Bloat] How to "sell" improvement

[Kathleen Nichols]

That's a good idea in general, but what are you measuring for your
"actual performance"?
Raw throughput? Goodput (which requires a bit of processing)? Then what
about delay?

On 11/28/16 9:41 AM, David Collier-Brown wrote:
> Put the speed-test /into the router/, with a big red button to turn 
> fq_codel on and off.
> 
> * The performance reporting graphs can then run on a browser page
> for as long as you like, while you do other things, and go back to
> the page and see what it's been like. * Have a line for "perfect"
> performance, and anyone can see how close you're system is coming to
> it. * Have a button for a synthetic load test, of some shortish
> duration, and, * Put it on normal Linux hosts too, so you can test
> end-to-end.
> 
> 
> This has the advantage that it's code-first, so you don't have to 
> convince the uninterested, and from it you can write a small and
> limited RFC to tell everyone else how you did it.
> 
> As each new improvement comes along, actual performance slowly gets 
> closer and closer to the optimal performance line...
> 
> --dave
> 
> 
> On 28/11/16 10:21 AM, Jonathan Foulkes wrote:
>> Thanks for the Introduction Rich, and thanks again to you and many
>> others on this list for all your contributions over the years
>> helping to combat bloat.
>> 
>> This product was born of my own frustration with finding a way to
>> help neighbors and family get a simple off-the-shelf solution that
>> even non-technical users can deploy.
>> 
>> I look forward to participating more actively on this list.
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>>> On Nov 26, 2016, at 9:08 AM, Rich Brown <richb.hanover at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have been exchanging a few emails with Jonathan Foulkes from
>>> evenroute.com. He tells me that his company is installing OpenWrt
>>> on a commercial, off the shelf (COTS) TP-Link router and selling
>>> them on commercially. His "secret sauce" is an auto-update
>>> facility and improved setup software, which includes a
>>> rate-detection step that operates continually to adjust the
>>> fq_codel parameters to the actual line rate. You can take a look
>>> at IQrouter.com, or look them up on Amazon.
>>> 
>>> This might be a solution to our current conundrum about not
>>> having an easy solution that solves our family's networking
>>> problem. I'm going to get one of these and try it out.
>>> 
>>> He has been following our bufferbloat and make-fifi-fast work
>>> closely, as well as the work on LEDE, which he'll consider once
>>> it hits a stable point. I have invited him to join this list.
>>> 
>>> Welcome, Jonathan.
>>> 
>>> 
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