[Bloat] How to "sell" improvement (was: COTS router with OpenWrt)

[David Collier-Brown]

Put the speed-test /into the router/, with a big red button to turn 
fq_codel on and off.

  * The performance reporting graphs can then run on a browser page for
    as long as you like, while you do other things, and go back to the
    page and see what it's been like.
  * Have a line for "perfect" performance, and anyone can see how close
    you're system is coming to it.
  * Have a button for a synthetic load test, of some shortish duration, and,
  * Put it on normal Linux hosts too, so you can test end-to-end.


This has the advantage that it's code-first, so you don't have to 
convince the uninterested, and from it you can write a small and limited 
RFC to tell everyone else how you did it.

As each new improvement comes along, actual performance slowly gets 
closer and closer to the optimal performance line...

--dave


On 28/11/16 10:21 AM, Jonathan Foulkes wrote:
> Thanks for the Introduction Rich, and thanks again to you and many others on this list for all your contributions over the years helping to combat bloat.
>
> This product was born of my own frustration with finding a way to help neighbors and family get a simple off-the-shelf solution that even non-technical users can deploy.
>
> I look forward to participating more actively on this list.
>
> Jonathan
>
>> On Nov 26, 2016, at 9:08 AM, Rich Brown <richb.hanover at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have been exchanging a few emails with Jonathan Foulkes from evenroute.com. He tells me that his company is installing OpenWrt on a commercial, off the shelf (COTS) TP-Link router and selling them on commercially. His "secret sauce" is an auto-update facility and improved setup software, which includes a rate-detection step that operates continually to adjust the fq_codel parameters to the actual line rate. You can take a look at IQrouter.com, or look them up on Amazon.
>>
>> This might be a solution to our current conundrum about not having an easy solution that solves our family's networking problem. I'm going to get one of these and try it out.
>>
>> He has been following our bufferbloat and make-fifi-fast work closely, as well as the work on LEDE, which he'll consider once it hits a stable point. I have invited him to join this list.
>>
>> Welcome, Jonathan.
>>
>>
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