[Bloat] Seen in passing: mention of Valve's networking scheme and RFC 5348

[Michael Welzl]

please, please, people, take a look at the ietf taps (“transport services”) working group  :-)


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> On 3 Apr 2018, at 14:35, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike at swm.pp.se> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 3 Apr 2018, Jonathan Morton wrote:
>> 
>> notwithstanding).  In the end, people have kept reinventing "reliable datagram" protocols on top of UDP, whenever they ran up against requirements that TCP didn't fulfil.
> 
> Yes, for multiple reasons. TCP is ossified and typically lives in the OS, because of NAT the only options for protocols that work are TCP and UDP, so if you want to move your "transmission stack" to userspace, your only choice is UDP. So enter things like QUIC and others that are mux:ed stream protocols over UDP, which can then live in userland on all major operating systems.
> 
> This is not ideal, but it's not strange that this is happening. The only way to innovate as an application/protocol developer is to use UDP.
> 
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> Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike at swm.pp.se
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