[Bloat] Seen in passing: mention of Valve's networking scheme and RFC 5348

Luca Muscariello luca.muscariello at gmail.com
Wed Apr 4 07:06:22 EDT 2018

I'm aware of this one. The last time I checked Linux patches seemed to be
Hit ratio could be v v low if you remove UDP encap. Look at IPSEC.

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike at swm.pp.se>

> On Wed, 4 Apr 2018, Luca Muscariello wrote:
> And yes, flow queueing, absolutely. Flow isolation, becomes fundamental is
>> such a zoo, or jungle.
> There was talk in IETF about a transport protocol that was proposed to do
> a lot of things TCP doesn't do, but still retain some things that has been
> useful with TCP.
> I think it was this one:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-nvo3-gue/
> I'd like to see it not over UDP, but rather as a native IP protocol. The
> talk was about having the network being able to look into the state machine
> of the protocol (MSS size, equivalent of SYN, etc) but not into payload
> (which would be end-to-end encrypted). It would also be able to do muxed
> streams/message based to avoid head-of-line-blocking because of single
> packet loss.
> So any of this that comes up then the whole FQ machinery might benefit
> frmo being able to identify flows in any new protocol, but I imagine this
> is not a hard thing to do. I still have hopes for the flow label in IPv6 to
> do this job, even though it hasn't seen wide adoption so far.
> --
> Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike at swm.pp.se
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