[Bloat] [Galene] Re: testing latency under load on webrtc with galene?

Sean DuBois sean at siobud.com
Thu Mar 4 14:09:27 EST 2021

I would really love to build a general WebRTC tester. Spinning up lots of
Chromium instances is super expensive. Even if you do the mock webcam
you are doing way more then needed.

I created[0] which spins up many PeerConnections to load test a server.
I think this would be a great alternative to the testing that exists

* You can send pre-encoded video or RTP packets directly.
* You can receive RTP and not pay the costs of processing
* You get direct access to Receiver Reports, Transport Wide Congestion
  Control and Receiver Estimated Max Bandwidth.
* Way easier to deploy. We can build a small static binary.

If anyone is interested would love to help them kick off a project. We
can make it general enough to test Galene, Janus, Jitsi, Ion etc... If
it gets acceptance from the greater WebRTC community it could really

[0] https://github.com/pion/rtsp-bench/blob/master/client/main.go

On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 05:01:42PM +0100, Luca Muscariello wrote:
> Dave,
> we have done extensive WebRTC (and several other online meeting
> apps) testing lately and this paper
> https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9153228 reports a
> methodology for WebRTC based on Chromium and Selenium Grid and
> as test orchestrator Jitsi Torture.
> I would avoid feeding clients with BBB as video as it is not
> representative of a meeting as encoders are optimized for
> different kinds of video. There are several video samples
> out there.
> We have scaled up clients to hundreds with this methodology.
> The paper is short so many details have been omitted but there
> are not many other options to do this kind of test at scale.
> Luca
> describes the methodology
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 2:15 AM Dave Taht <dave.taht at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Given that we have a worldwide network of flent servers...
> >
> > Given how easy galene is to hack on... and a 10 minute install...
> >
> > given some webrtc scripting... a few more stats... some javascript...
> > skull sweat... funding...
> >
> > It seems plausible to be able to construct a suite of tests that could
> > indeed track jitter
> > delay and loss across the internet over webrtc. Perpetually uploading
> > bigbuckbunny or some
> > other suitable movie might be an option, but I have a fondness for
> > extracting a sub 30 second segment from  "Max Headroom", which if
> > those here have not seen it, predicted much of the fine mess we're all
> > in now.
> >
> > I guess my question is mostly, is a "headless" test feasible? In the
> > context of samknow's lack of webrtc test... lowpowered hw....
> >
> > --
> > "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public
> > relations, for Mother Nature cannot be fooled" - Richard Feynman
> >
> > dave at taht.net <Dave Täht> CTO, TekLibre, LLC Tel: 1-831-435-0729
> > _______________________________________________
> > Bloat mailing list
> > Bloat at lists.bufferbloat.net
> > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/bloat
> >

> _______________________________________________
> Galene mailing list -- galene at lists.galene.org
> To unsubscribe send an email to galene-leave at lists.galene.org

More information about the Bloat mailing list