[Bloat] [LibreQoS] gamebench quote

[dan]

nice.  I like your color coded speed map as well. Been considering that but
also don't want the competition to know exactly what's up, like to keep
them on their toes.  They've wasted money building into areas that we
already have superior service and they get nothing.  There's some Sun Tzu
quote about that :D


On Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 4:17 PM Robert Chacón <
robert.chacon at jackrabbitwireless.com> wrote:

> Same here. We compete primarily against Charter Spectrum in the suburbs.
> Gamers and twitch streamers switch to us frequently due to the high upload
> bloat and jitter on Spectrum's network.
> We made a page on our website
> <https://jackrabbitwireless.com/performance/> that tries to educate
> prospective clients about latency and bloat. I added the GameBench quote to
> it (thanks, Dave!)
> Surprisingly, some people do read it and it helps ease their minds about
> "speed" when they're used to being bombarded with messaging about needing
> gigabit bandwidth.
>
> > I'm happy enough if TDS and Spectrum take their sweet time figuring out
> that latency is important :D
>
> This! That and their inability to really do whole-home WiFi at scale helps
> WISPs offer a true performance answer to cable internet.
>
> On Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 3:56 PM dan via LibreQoS <
> libreqos at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
>> This is definitely our focus.  We preach low latency first and better
>> uploads second, downloads are a distant third.  We do have to advertise the
>> faster speeds just to get into the conversation because Spectrum for
>> example and now TDS are all about 1G or 2G services.  See my other email
>> though, Spectrum's latency and jitter is garbage, TDS is actually worse
>> than that to many services but I don't have a remote login to a TDS site at
>> the moment.  I'm 15ms more from AWS Oregon on TDS than Spectrum, and I'm
>> 20ms better than Spectrum on Lumen DIA.
>>
>> I'm happy enough if TDS and Spectrum take their sweet time figuring out
>> that latency is important :D
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 3:52 PM Dave Taht via LibreQoS <
>> libreqos at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.gamebench.net/network-performance-and-gamer-experience-the-us-edition/
>>>
>>> "Overall, the consistently reinforced takeaway is that latency has now
>>> clearly overtaken broadband speed as the focus area for network
>>> providers seeking to provide – and guarantee and commercially benefit
>>> from – optimum experience in both online multiplayer and cloud
>>> gaming."
>>>
>>> --
>>> This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work:
>>>
>>> https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-6981366665607352320-FXtz
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