[Bloat] [Cake] The most wonderful video ever about bufferbloat

[Sebastian Moeller]

Hi Erik,

On 11 October 2022 08:08:14 CEST, Taraldsen Erik <erik.taraldsen at telenor.no> wrote:
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>On 10/10/2022, 22:23, "Cake on behalf of Sebastian Moeller via Cake" <cake-bounces at lists.bufferbloat.net on behalf of cake at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
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>    	[SM] Tricky... e.g. vectoring enabled CPE can be instructed by the DSLAM to send error samples in-band with the data, but that traffic is never seen by our shapers, so to account for that we need to set a fraction that allows for that (more or less) periodic traffic. I guess one can reach a point of "goog enough" even when ignoring such eventualities, especially if having to convince through-put hot-rodders. Always interesting to hear experience from the real world, thanks!
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>In my bussiness we can't let perfect be the enemy of good. If we were to wait for the perfect firmware, nobody would have internet access at all.  Our team moto is "suck less".  Meaning we know there are issues with all products we take to market. And to get to market at all we unfortunately need to accept some suckiness in one domain or another.  So when we follow up the vendors each new firmware has to suck less. 

[SM] Great I like the focus on improvement! I wish my ISP were similarly enlightend.

Regards
       Sebastian


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