<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_73402"><span></span></div><div>Justin,</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_73953"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_73959" dir="ltr">This looks really useful. On the subject of presenting the information in a clear way, we have always struggled with how to present a 'larger is worse' number. A while back I posted a graphic which attempts to </div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_73975" dir="ltr">overcome this for latency:</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_73988" dir="ltr"><a id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_73987" href="https://imgrush.com/0oPGJ8VHluFy.png">https://imgrush.com/0oPGJ8VHluFy.png</a></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_74007" dir="ltr">Feel free to use any aspect of that. The example there compares fictional ISPs but it could easily be used to compare typical latency with latency under load.<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_74139" dir="ltr">(I used the word 'delay' as it is more familiar than latency. The number is illustrated by a picture of a physical queue; hopefully everyone can identify it instantly, and knows that a longer one is worse. The eye supposed to be drawn to the figure at the back of the queue to emphasise this.)<br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_74019"> Best,</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_74140" dir="ltr">Alex<br></div><blockquote id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_73407" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_73406" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue-Light, Helvetica Neue Light, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_73405" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_73404" dir="ltr"> <hr id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_73403" size="1"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_73408" face="Arial" size="2"> <b id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_74142"><span id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_74141" style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> jb <justin@dslr.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>; bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, April 19, 2015 6:26 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bloat] DSLReports Speed Test has latency measurement built-in<br> </font> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_73415" class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv4051046024"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_73414"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_73413" dir="ltr"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_73412" class="yiv4051046024gmail_extra"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_73411" class="yiv4051046024gmail_quote"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_73445">The graph below the upload and download is what is new.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_73760">(unfortunately you do have to be logged into the site to see this)</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_73449">it shows the latency during the upload and download, color coded. (see attached image).<br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_73410"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_73778"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_73762">In your case during the upload it spiked to ~200ms from ~50ms but it was not so bad. During upload, there were no issues with latency.<br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_73761"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1429431028026_73447">I don't want to force anyone to sign up, just was making sure not to confuse anonymous users with more information than they knew what to do with. When I'm clear how to present the information, I'll make it available by default, to anyone member or otherwise.<br clear="none"></div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div></body></html>