<div dir="ltr">Yes <a href="http://speedtest.net">speedtest.net</a> license a white label version where the ISP can<div>apply the branding for example Xfinity/Comcast test is just <a href="http://speedtest.net">speedtest.net</a></div><div>in a new dress.<div><br></div><div>As you mentioned ISPs like it because they don't have to pay for as much</div><div>bandwidth and locating it in their noc can avoid "testing" a lot</div><div>of other things. Things both in their control, and out of their control.</div><div><br></div><div>Also externally hosted tests did themselves no favours by</div><div>being single stream so were quickly crippled by only running as fast</div><div>as the TCP send/receive maximum window sizes let them for the</div><div>latency, but speedtest was (on the quiet!) loads of parallel streams.</div><div>I've learned that customers want to believe the fastest result they can</div><div>possibly get.</div><div><br></div><div>In fact a super successful speed test would ask the user how</div><div>fast their line is supposed to be, then it would display some nifty</div><div>graphics for a while and then display that speed back, plus 3% extra :)</div></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 6:28 PM, Richard Mortimer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:richm@oldelvet.org.uk" target="_blank">richm@oldelvet.org.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><br>
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On 14/08/2015 08:30, jb wrote:<br>
> hey, Leo is a good guy :)<br>
><br>
> If someone was to explain to him bufferbloat he'd probably find a way to<br>
> include something on it in a future show.<br>
<br>
</span>Leo did mention bufferbloat towards the end of that segment around 1:51<br>
when he was explaining the dslr results screen. But it would have been<br>
nice if that had been mentioned to the caller direct.<br>
<br>
I have also heard Leo and Steve talk about bufferbloat on Security Now<br>
occasionally. A quick search shows that they devoted a whole episode to<br>
it in March 2012<br>
<a href="https://www.grc.com/sn/sn-345.htm" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.grc.com/sn/sn-345.htm</a><br>
<a href="https://www.grc.com/sn/sn-359.htm" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.grc.com/sn/sn-359.htm</a><br>
<br>
Just one thing to note about the ISPs preference for <a href="http://speedtest.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">speedtest.net</a>. My<br>
ISP here in the UK use what is I think a co-located (rebadged)<br>
<a href="http://speedtest.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">speedtest.net</a> server in their data centres. I think that doing it that<br>
way means they are testing from their core network to me and can<br>
discount any wider internet issues outside of their control. They also<br>
get to see the results direct from the server so they do not need to<br>
"trust" my version of the results.<br>
<br>
I had a problem a few months back and they told me to test there instead<br>
of at dslr. However their license key for the speedtest server had<br>
expired and it gave me a nice error screen revealing a lot of the setup<br>
behind the curtains that revealed it was powered by speedtest.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Richard<br>
<span class=""><br>
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><br>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 2:36 AM, Dave Taht <<a href="mailto:dave.taht@gmail.com">dave.taht@gmail.com</a><br>
</span><span class="">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:dave.taht@gmail.com">dave.taht@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> but missed talking about it. Peaking at 600ms of delay at 100mbit,<br>
> shown at about 1:45.<br>
><br>
> see vlog at:<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://www.twit.tv/shows/the-tech-guy/episodes/1204?autostart=false" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.twit.tv/shows/the-tech-guy/episodes/1204?autostart=false</a><br>
><br>
> and spends 5k a month on his internet access.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Dave Täht<br>
> worldwide bufferbloat report:<br>
> <a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/results/bufferbloat" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/results/bufferbloat</a><br>
> And:<br>
> What will it take to vastly improve wifi for everyone?<br>
> <a href="https://plus.google.com/u/0/explore/makewififast" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://plus.google.com/u/0/explore/makewififast</a><br>
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