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5) But I'm not hopeful that any of the COTS router vendors are going to adopt these techniques, simply because they've been impervious to our earlier entreaties. That doesn't mean we shouldn't try again - it'd be a helluva competitive advantage to incorporate the 25-50 man years of intense software development that has gone into this work.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>(painting with a very large brush):</div><div><br></div><div>But they aren't in the best position, really, to do this. Mostly their ODMs get the BSP Linux from the chipset vendor to work, slap a UI on it, and call it a day. And those BSPs are _ancient_. I wouldn't be surprised to see 2.6 still coming out on new models, let alone 4.0.</div><div><br></div><div>To get the COTS devices to have this, we need to be able to back-port things far enough back that we can talk QCA, Broadcom, Marvell, RTLink, etc. to incorporate them into the BSP. But in the Sinclair vain, they like their proprietary things (like the hardware offload engines that ignore the linux stack as much as possible).</div><div><br></div><div>So, I think we need to talk to the _right_ people at the chipset vendors to get traction on this. Smaller COTS vendors might be swayable (part of their value over the big companies).</div><div><br></div><div>-Aaron</div></div></div></div>