<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 3, 2017, at 2:59 PM, Dave Taht <<a href="mailto:dave@taht.net" class="">dave@taht.net</a>> wrote:</div></blockquote><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="Singleton"><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">I saw a blog posting that was enthusing about codel/fq_codel, and I was moved to<br class="">respond that the state of the art was now cake.<br class=""></blockquote><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">where?</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>This article (<a href="https://www.pcmech.com/article/bufferbloat-fix-slow-network/" class="">https://www.pcmech.com/article/bufferbloat-fix-slow-network/</a>) is a pretty sub-standard explanation of bufferbloat. But I didn't want to come across as the "smartest (smart-ass) guy in the room"</div><div><br class=""></div><div>My plan was to gently correct the worst errors/misperceptions ("it's the bottleneck, stupid") and say that the state of the art had moved ahead, even of fq_codel, then point to the Cake page on the site.</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="Singleton"><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">But I looked at the Cake page on<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://bufferbloat.net/" class="">Bufferbloat.net</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and wonder if everything there<br class="">is true, or whether it would be good to update<br class="">it.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/codel/wiki/Cake/" class="">https://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/codel/wiki/Cake/</a><br class=""></blockquote><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">It's pretty much true.</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">Good. I will try this weekend to organize that info into a page that would serve well readers like those from the <a href="http://pcmech.com" class="">pcmech.com</a> site who're new to the subject, and curious about Cake/Bufferbloat.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Rich</div></body></html>