<div dir="ltr">Thanks for the details!<div><br></div><div>Given that DOCSIS 3.1 (released initially in 2013) has many revisions - <a href="https://specification-search.cablelabs.com/CM-SP-MULPIv3.1?v=03">https://specification-search.cablelabs.com/CM-SP-MULPIv3.1?v=03</a> - and low-latency DOCSIS and L4S was added in 2019 (CM-SP-MULPIv3.1-I17-190121), I had been under the impression that the PIE AQM for upstream traffic was also added in some later revision. But I do see now that the PIE AQM for upstream traffic was in Annex M of the initial 3.1 spec (CM-SP-MULPIv3.1-I01-131029).</div><div><br></div><div>Does anyone happen to know if (and if so, how widely) the major cable ISPs world-wide enable the upstream PIE AQM functionality?</div><div><br></div><div>neal</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr"><strong>From: </strong>Sebastian Moeller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:moeller0@gmx.de">moeller0@gmx.de</a>></span><br><strong>Date: </strong>Mon, May 13, 2019 at 5:16 AM<br><strong>To: </strong>bloat, Neal Cardwell<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div>Hi Neal,<br><br>As far as I can tell the PIE aqm is mandatory in all DOCSIS 3.1 CPEs, do Al you need is a modem certified for 3.1 and probably also an DOCSIS ISP supplying 3.1 services (I assume the AQM will only be engaged in a docsis 3.1 environment), as in DOCSIS the ISP basically has control over the CPE, so you would need their cooperation. Not every DOCSIS ISP will provision any customer modem, but I assume you have enough leverage to make this happen.</div><div><br></div><div>Anyway according to the spec sheets:</div><div>AVM Fritzbox 6591</div><div>Netgear CM1000-1AZNAS</div><div>Arris SB8200</div><div>Motorola MB8600</div><div>should give you what you want.</div><div><br></div><div>Best Reards</div><div><span class="gmail-m_4742703453605984960Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Sebastian</div><div><br></div><div>P.S.: I would love to hear your results, as information about the effects of docsis pie in the wild is quite limited...</div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On May 12, 2019 11:24:50 PM GMT+02:00, Neal Cardwell <<a href="mailto:ncardwell@google.com" target="_blank">ncardwell@google.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Anyone have a pointer to a cable modem model that is available for purchase and implements the DOCSIS 3.1 PIE mechanism? (So far, my searches for this have only found other people asking this question, rather than the answer. Apologies if I missed something that should be easy to find.)<div><br></div><div>I'm curious to have one for testing with BBR v2. I'm aware of the Linux PIE implementation, but it would be nice to have the actual cable modem version to play with as well.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><div>neal</div><div><br></div></div>
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