<div dir="ltr"><br>Although IMHO nadia has overfocused on the javascript infrastructure rather than all the C and kernel stuff that runs as root, I am really happy with much of what she's published so far. I don't know if there will be a Q&A session on this talk.<div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <strong class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">Long Now</strong> <span dir="auto"><<a href="mailto:membership@longnow.org">membership@longnow.org</a>></span><br>Date: Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 10:03 AM<br>Subject: Long Now Talk: Nadia Eghbal, The Making and Maintenance of our Open Source Infrastructure on 11/17/20<br>To: <<a href="mailto:dave.taht@gmail.com">dave.taht@gmail.com</a>><br></div><br><br><u></u>
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<div>Nadia Eghbal is particularly interested in infrastructure, governance, and the economics of the internet - and how the dynamics of these subjects play out in software, online communities and generally living life online.</div>
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<div>Eghbal, who interviewed hundreds of developers while working to improve their experience at GitHub, argues that modern open source offers us a model through which to understand the challenges faced by online creators. Her new book, <a href="http://sysmail.longnow.org/ls/click?upn=hGQ0Zkvvhb7zH0-2F1EZrdaZ8WpoNHSbuiA0w5QAiWirBJTrzUY8Wudgcaf1aH94L31e-2Bi5ugRefcb5cNagqBzOQ-3D-3Djfdu_U7Ame-2BXbufUtNDArWJuNQz5HqjlExRZu-2BbWNUSLJopFmz5zUw-2B70WuFB6xvhg7VM5uiqgAyNfpaZ5xwxEZ20Jnk1ujWbNZj6el0riTD9m4kw4OYKh-2F1gfgt7DUd1cwAox8hGZZougX-2Fw6syFGTL4da-2BAueJWX7cjSsAXEunkyVW-2Ba5yFCKTzq7pSt2xYhLGaIOPH2AXhjU8dLsIodo9l3mermO-2BB4KmzNAZLHDjEslSh-2BV8TlP6qiLm4lc9yRYaYcEyhVO71-2BCwGIRHqfvtmX-2Fi2hwyxb-2B-2BDb-2FbqENGxzYx6Xc-2F48txn35803aAyPLIp58Zhpy3kjGdBQfIV2f-2Fxp9hTKwSLWLRch7EGTIKuYnc8GuIXk7aB22lKWmn5gwqTgmUl65sbepEXtwwQyeK1iCOt2nZxcrog0TGmbb56zdT5wCn1piy54mnGbix9nDDj" style="color:#3294c6;text-decoration:none" target="_blank">Working in Public: The Making and Maintenance of Open Source Software</a>, is about open source developers and what they tell us about the evolution of our online social spaces.</div>
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<div>Eghbal sees open source code as a form of public infrastructure that requires maintenance, and that offers us a model through which to understand the challenges faced by online creators on all platforms.</div>
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