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<p class="MsoNormal">I recently heard Stuart Cheshire (sort of tongue-in-cheek) refer to “idle latency” as “the latency that users experience when they are not using their internet connection” (or something along those lines). <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think terminology that reinforces that the baseline (unloaded) latency is not always what users experience, and that latency under load is not referring to some unusual corner-case situation, is good. So, I like “idle latency” and “working
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<p class="MsoNormal">-Greg<o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Bloat <bloat-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net> on behalf of Jonathan Foulkes <jf@jonathanfoulkes.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, May 10, 2021 at 2:10 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Jason Livingood <Jason_Livingood@comcast.com><br>
<b>Cc: </b>bloat <bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Bloat] Terminology for Laypeople<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Hi Jason,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">I’ve found that idle is a good descriptor for unloaded metrics, and for semi-technical audiences ‘working’ is a very good term. But for lay people, the term ‘loaded’ seems to work better, especially since we are
talking about a metric that relates to capacity.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">e.g.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">When my truck is unloaded, my truck stops quickly, but when loaded, it takes longer to stop.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">so now:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">When my Internet line is unloaded, my latency is low, but when it is highly loaded (iCloud photo sync), the latency is very high.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Jonathan Foulkes<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">On May 4, 2021, at 8:02 PM, Livingood, Jason via Bloat <<a href="mailto:bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net">bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Like many of you I have been immersed in buffer bloat discussions for many years, almost entirely within the technical community. Now that I am starting to explain latency & latency
under load to internal non-technical folks, I have noticed some people don’t really understand “traditional” latency vs. latency under load (LUL).</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">As a result, I am planning to experiment in some upcoming briefings and call traditional latency “idle latency” – a measure of latency conducted on an otherwise idle connection. And
then try calling LUL either “active latency” or perhaps “working latency” (suggested by an external colleague – can’t take credit for that one) – to try to communicate it is latency when the connection is experiencing normal usage.</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Have any of you here faced similar challenges explaining this to non-technical audiences? Have you had any success with alternative terms? What do you think of these?</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Thanks for any input,</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span style="font-size:14.0pt">Jason</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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