I see cake is moving to the upstreamed version. As best as I recall, nat mode was on by default in the openwrt code, but not the upstreamed code. People not setting nat mode on would explain a few things i've seen 'round the intertubes this week. -- Make Music, Not War Dave Täht CTO, TekLibre, LLC http://www.teklibre.com Tel: 1-831-435-0729