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    Hi again<br>
    <br>
    I tested Dave's build of cake on wndr3800.  (Didn't try specifying
    cake2/cake3; I'm guessing tc cake means cake3 on there).  "atm"
    adjustment worked fine on my adsl.  I can't distinguish it from
    sqm-scripts with the same configuration.<br>
    <br>
    SQM seems to win from having "overhead 40", which I can't configure
    in cake.<br>
    <br>
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            double #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080;
            border-right: none; padding-top: 0.05cm; padding-bottom:
            0.05cm; padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm"
            width="18%">
            <p><br>
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            double #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080;
            border-right: none; padding-top: 0.05cm; padding-bottom:
            0.05cm; padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm"
            width="20%">
            <p>up / kbit/s</p>
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            double #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080;
            border-right: none; padding-top: 0.05cm; padding-bottom:
            0.05cm; padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm"
            width="17%">
            <p>down / kbit/s</p>
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          <td style="border-top: 1px double #808080; border-bottom: 1px
            double #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080;
            border-right: none; padding-top: 0.05cm; padding-bottom:
            0.05cm; padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm"
            width="21%">
            <p>overhead / bytes</p>
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            width="25%">
            <p>Median RRUL / ms</p>
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          <td style="border-top: none; border-bottom: 1px double
            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right:
            none; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm" width="18%">
            <p>SQM</p>
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          <td style="border-top: none; border-bottom: 1px double
            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right:
            none; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm" width="20%">
            <p>16000</p>
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          <td style="border-top: none; border-bottom: 1px double
            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right:
            none; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm" width="17%">
            <p>950</p>
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          <td style="border-top: none; border-bottom: 1px double
            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right:
            none; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm" width="21%">
            <p>0</p>
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          <td style="border-top: none; border-bottom: 1px double
            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right: 1px
            double #808080; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0.05cm" width="25%">
            <p>74</p>
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          <td style="border-top: none; border-bottom: 1px double
            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right:
            none; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm" width="18%">
            <p>Cake</p>
          </td>
          <td style="border-top: none; border-bottom: 1px double
            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right:
            none; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm" width="20%">
            <p>17175</p>
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          <td style="border-top: none; border-bottom: 1px double
            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right:
            none; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm" width="17%">
            <p>995</p>
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          <td style="border-top: none; border-bottom: 1px double
            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right:
            none; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm" width="21%">
            <p>0</p>
          </td>
          <td style="border-top: none; border-bottom: 1px double
            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right: 1px
            double #808080; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0.05cm" width="25%">
            <p>76</p>
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            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right:
            none; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm" width="18%">
            <p><br>
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            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right:
            none; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm" width="20%">
            <p><br>
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          <td style="border-top: none; border-bottom: 1px double
            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right:
            none; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm" width="17%">
            <p><br>
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          <td style="border-top: none; border-bottom: 1px double
            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right:
            none; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm" width="21%">
            <p><br>
            </p>
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            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right: 1px
            double #808080; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0.05cm" width="25%">
            <p><br>
            </p>
          </td>
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          <td style="border-top: none; border-bottom: 1px double
            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right:
            none; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm" width="18%">
            <p>Cake</p>
          </td>
          <td style="border-top: none; border-bottom: 1px double
            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right:
            none; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm" width="20%">
            <p>16000</p>
          </td>
          <td style="border-top: none; border-bottom: 1px double
            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right:
            none; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm" width="17%">
            <p>950</p>
          </td>
          <td style="border-top: none; border-bottom: 1px double
            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right:
            none; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm" width="21%">
            <p>0</p>
          </td>
          <td style="border-top: none; border-bottom: 1px double
            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right: 1px
            double #808080; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0.05cm" width="25%">
            <p>74</p>
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          <td style="border-top: none; border-bottom: 1px double
            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right:
            none; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm" width="18%">
            <p>SQM</p>
          </td>
          <td style="border-top: none; border-bottom: 1px double
            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right:
            none; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm" width="20%">
            <p>17175</p>
          </td>
          <td style="border-top: none; border-bottom: 1px double
            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right:
            none; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm" width="17%">
            <p>995</p>
          </td>
          <td style="border-top: none; border-bottom: 1px double
            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right:
            none; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm" width="21%">
            <p>40</p>
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          <td style="border-top: none; border-bottom: 1px double
            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right: 1px
            double #808080; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0.05cm" width="25%">
            <p>70</p>
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            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right:
            none; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm" width="18%">
            <p><br>
            </p>
          </td>
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            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right:
            none; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm" width="20%">
            <p><br>
            </p>
          </td>
          <td style="border-top: none; border-bottom: 1px double
            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right:
            none; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm" width="17%">
            <p><br>
            </p>
          </td>
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            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right:
            none; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm" width="21%">
            <p><br>
            </p>
          </td>
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            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right: 1px
            double #808080; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0.05cm" width="25%">
            <p><br>
            </p>
          </td>
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          <td style="border-top: none; border-bottom: 1px double
            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right:
            none; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm" width="18%">
            <p>DSL sync rate</p>
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            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right:
            none; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm" width="20%">
            <p>17619</p>
          </td>
          <td style="border-top: none; border-bottom: 1px double
            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right:
            none; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm" width="17%">
            <p>1020</p>
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          <td style="border-top: none; border-bottom: 1px double
            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right:
            none; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0cm" width="21%">
            <p><br>
            </p>
          </td>
          <td style="border-top: none; border-bottom: 1px double
            #808080; border-left: 1px double #808080; border-right: 1px
            double #808080; padding-top: 0cm; padding-bottom: 0.05cm;
            padding-left: 0.05cm; padding-right: 0.05cm" width="25%">
            <p>59<br>
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    IMO it wouldn't hurt for 'tc atm', 'tc adsl', and everything else to
    default to 'overhead 44'.  (The highest overhead Seb reported; the
    original worst case overhead[1] plus a vlan header for IPTV).<br>
    <br>
    Alan<br>
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    [1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://ace-host.stuart.id.au/russell/files/tc/tc-atm/#usage">http://ace-host.stuart.id.au/russell/files/tc/tc-atm/#usage</a><br>
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