<div dir="ltr">In my opinion, you should introduce the challenges faced to get to this point a little bit more.<div>There has been an historically difficult insertion of packet scheduling in the Internet.</div><div><br></div><div>FQ in the first place has suffered ostracism for a number of reasons, some acceptable criticism, </div><div>some others just driven by ignorance.</div><div>You don't make that point at the beginning of the presentation and you should, IMO.</div><div><br></div><div>Let me be a little dramatic for a second. </div><div>It's been an odyssey. Really, if we start counting from John Nagle (1985) and</div><div>Ellen Hahne's Ph.D thesis at MIT supervised by Robert Gallager.</div><div>And take FQ_codel RFC as another milestone in 2018.</div><div><br></div><div>More than 30 years. That's an odyssey. Longer actually as Ulysses stayed away from home only 20 years!</div><div>So cake is really sitting on giant's shoulders.</div><div>But the list is long, Jim Roberts, Scott Shenker, Luigi Rizzo and many many others, sorry the list is too long.</div><div><br></div><div>Why so difficult? Was it worthy? </div><div>I think you should say that at the conference. </div><div>Gook luck!</div><div><br></div><div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style="color:rgb(80,91,98);font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;text-align:left;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span class="gmail-this-person">Ellen L. Hahne</span></span><span style="color:rgb(80,91,98);font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;text-align:left;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">:</span><br style="color:rgb(80,91,98);font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;text-align:left;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span class="gmail-title" style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-weight:700;font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;text-align:left;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Round robin scheduling for fair flow control in data communication networks.</span><span style="color:rgb(80,91,98);font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;text-align:left;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span> </span></span></div><div style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style="color:rgb(80,91,98);font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;text-align:left;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, MA, USA<span> </span></span><span style="color:rgb(80,91,98);font-family:"Open Sans",sans-serif;font-size:14.6667px;text-align:left;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">1986</span></div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 7:44 PM Dave Taht <<a href="mailto:dave.taht@gmail.com">dave.taht@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I started at the lanman2018 talk (to be given next tuesday), this past<br>
weekend, for "piece of cake" ( <a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/1804.07617" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://arxiv.org/abs/1804.07617</a> )<br>
<br>
Try as I might, finding a memorable narrative hook to fit into 20<br>
minutes eludes me. There's so much to cake! There's no room for me to<br>
break out a guitar or carry a case of water bottles into this preso.<br>
<br>
A principal complaint of the reviewers of the paper was the lack of<br>
real world tests, so I snuck in a couple sides for that and am working<br>
on incorporating the graphs and other text from the paper.<br>
<br>
But ya know, it's always been a group effort and if anyone(s) here<br>
would like to contribute better slides, jokes, text, ideas, graphs,<br>
charts, or whatever, it would be helpful, because I can no longer see<br>
the forest after passing through it. I've oft wished we had the<br>
equivalent of a corp communications department 'cause my attempts at<br>
graphics generally suck.<br>
<br>
What does a ieee lanman2018 audience already grok, what needs to be explained?<br>
<br>
I will be periodically updating the currently very raw<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.taht.net/~d/cake/ieee.odp" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.taht.net/~d/cake/ieee.odp</a><br>
<br>
as we go along. Please share your thoughts....<br>
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-- <br>
<br>
Dave Täht<br>
CEO, TekLibre, LLC<br>
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