[Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt 3.3.8-17 is released

Thu Aug 16 07:08:23 EDT 2012

This was -6, so I was using simple_qos.sh.

Bill

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On Aug 16, 2012, at 12:54 AM, Sebastian Moeller <moeller0 at gmx.de> wrote:

> Hi William,
>
>
> On Aug 15, 2012, at 3:57 PM, William Katsak wrote:
>
>> I agree with this assessment as far as behavior goes.  With my recent experimentation on a Russian DSL line, I was seeing ~1200ms of uplink buffer reported (Netalyzr) natively, but as soon as I got the AQM running properly, that went away completely.
>
>    QOS or simple_qos.sh? I might switch to simple_qos next to see the effects there.
>
> best
>    Sebastian
>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Aug 15, 2012, at 6:53 PM, "dpreed at reed.com" <dpreed at reed.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Just to clarify, the way Netalyzr attempts to measure "uplink buffering" may not actually measure queue length.   It just spews UDP packets at the target, and measures sender-receiver packet delay at the maximum load it can generate.   So it's making certain assumptions about the location and FIFO nature of the "bottleneck queue" when it calculates that.
>>>
>>> I don't think this is good news that you are reproting.
>>>
>>> Assuming codel is measuring "sojourn time" and controlling it properly, you should not see 2.8 *seconds* of UDP queueing delay on the uplink - packets should be being dropped to keep that delay down to under 10 milliseconds.
>>> I have no idea how that jibes with low ping times, unless you are getting the ICMP packets spoofed.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: "Sebastian Moeller" <moeller0 at gmx.de>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2012 1:23pm
>>> To: "Dave Taht" <dave.taht at gmail.com>
>>> Cc: cerowrt-devel at lists.bufferbloat.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] cerowrt 3.3.8-17 is released
>>>
>>> Hi Dave,
>>>
>>> great work, as always I upgraded my production router to the latest and greatest (since I only have one router…). And it works quite well for normal usage…
>>> Netalyzr reports around 2800ms seconds of uplink buffering, yet saturating the uplink does not affect ping times to a remote target noticeably, basically the same as for all codellized ceo versions I tested so far...
>>>
>>> Some notes and a question:
>>> I noticed that even given plenty of swap space (1GB on a usb stick), using http://broadband.mpi-sws.org/residential/ to exercise UDP stress (on the uplink I assume) I can easily produce (I run the test from a macosx via 5GHz wireless over 1.5 yards):
>>> Aug 15 01:16:29 nacktmulle kern.err kernel: [175395.132812] ath: skbuff alloc of size 1926 failed
>>> (and plenty of those…).
>>> What then happens is that the OOM killer will aim for bind (reasonable since it is the largest single process) and kill it. When I try to restart bind by:
>>> root at nacktmulle:~# /etc/rc.d/S47namedprep start
>>> root at nacktmulle:~# /etc/rc.d/S48named restart
>>> Stopping isc-bind
>>> /etc/chroot/named//var/run/named/named.pid not found, trying brute force
>>> killall: named: no process killed
>>> Kicking isc-bind in xinetd
>>> rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused
>>> And bind does not start again and the router becomes less than useful. Now I assume I am doing something wrong, but what, if you have any idea how to solve this short of a reboot of the router (my current method) I would be happy to learn
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> best regards
>>> sebastian
>>>
>>> On Aug 12, 2012, at 11:08 PM, Dave Taht wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm too tired to write up a full set of release notes, but I've been
>>>> testing it all day,
>>>> and it looks better than -10 and certainly better than -11, but I won't know
>>>> until some more folk sit down and test it, so here it is.
>>>>
>>>> http://huchra.bufferbloat.net/~cero1/3.3/3.3.8-17/
>>>>
>>>> fresh merge with openwrt, fix to a bind CVE, fixes for 6in4 and quagga
>>>> routing problems,
>>>> and a few tweaks to fq_codel setup that might make voip better.
>>>>
>>>> Go forth and break things!
>>>>
>>>> In other news:
>>>>
>>>> Van Jacobson gave a great talk about bufferbloat, BQL, codel, and fq_codel
>>>> at last week's ietf meeting. Well worth watching. At the end he outlines
>>>> the deployment problems in particular.
>>>>
>>>> http://recordings.conf.meetecho.com/Recordings/watch.jsp?recording=IETF84_TSVAREA&chapter=part_3
>>>>
>>>> Far more interesting than this email!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dave Täht
>>>> http://www.bufferbloat.net/projects/cerowrt/wiki - "3.3.8-17 is out
>>>> with fq_codel!"
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