[Cerowrt-devel] Definitional Jiu-jitsu (was Re: 3.10.32-12 results on Free.fr)

Rich Brown richb.hanover at gmail.com
Tue Apr 1 14:45:39 EDT 2014

On Apr 1, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht at gmail.com> wrote:

> One thing I've noticed is the academic community is now seemingly defining
> "bufferbloat" as something that happens with > 200ms induced queuing
> delay delay, where I (we) define it as "excessive queueing", and in
> this group, are "settling" for <20ms delay in both directions in most
> cases. 

Hmmm... The academic community has finally come to understand the concept, and use the name "bufferbloat". Maybe that's OK, even if their understanding is dramatically different from ours.

Perhaps this is an opportunity to let their momentum fully embrace the Brobdignagian notion that 200 msec is OK, while we pivot agilely to use something like "smarterqueue.net" to define the "real good" scheme? 

I'm not sure we have the gravitas to pull this off, but it's worth considering. 


PS I can envision the soundtrack in the Youtube video...

... (stirring music) ...
... From the team that conquered Bufferbloat...
... Comes a technique that smashes it by an order of magnitude...
... (trumpets)... 

A fitting idea for a fitting day :-)

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