[Cerowrt-devel] Cerowrt-devel Digest, Vol 37, Issue 24
david at lang.hm
Sun Dec 21 03:28:07 EST 2014
On Sat, 20 Dec 2014, Mike O'Dell wrote:
> 15.9bps/Hz is unlikely to be using simple phase encoding
> that sounds more like 64QAM with FEC.
> given the chips available these days for DTV, DBS,
> and even LTE, that kind of processing is available
> off-the-shelf (relatively speaking - compared to
> writing your own DSP code).
per the chart at
(part of the link above), they use up to 1024 QAM (although the peak rate is
listed at 64 QAM)
I also wouldn't be surprised if their claim for 15.9bps/hz is the aggregate of
both directions at once.
> keep in mind that the reason the 2.4 and 5.8 ISM bands
> are where they are is specifically because of the ready
> absorption of RF at those frequencies. the propagation
> is *intended* to be problematic. that said, with
> good-enough antennas mounted with sufficient stability
> and sufficient power on the TX end and a good enough
> noise floor on the RX end, one can push a bunch of bits
> pretty far.
> Bdale Garbee (of Debian fame) had a 10GHz bent-pipe repeater
> up on the mountain above Colo Spgs for quite some time. X-band
> Gunnplexers were not hard to come by and retune for the
> 10GHz ham band. i believe he just FM'ed the Gunnplexer
> with the output of a 10Mbps ethernet chip and ran
> essentially pure Aloha. X-band dishes are relatively
> small and with just a few stations in the area he had fun.
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