[Cerowrt-devel] Random thought - reactions?

Joel Wirāmu Pauling joel at aenertia.net
Fri Dec 15 17:45:35 EST 2017

Here in New Zealand ; any provider operating a 'Network of National
Significance' must hand over any encryption keys on demand to what is
our local equivalent of the NSA. This makes a very high disincentive
for anyone to provide end to end encryption by design in their access
and transport networks. I would wager the US is likely to see a
similar provision to combat this sort of approach getting commercial

Whilst I completely agree this sort of this is needed, not being able
to create commercial services off it that are user-transparent is a
big barrier. Because for this approach to work you need as many people
to opt in as possible.


On 16 December 2017 at 10:11,  <dpreed at reed.com> wrote:
> Thanks for this. I hadn't seen it yet.
> On Friday, December 15, 2017 2:32pm, "tapper" <j.lancett at ntlworld.com> said:
>> Motherboard & VICE Are Building a Community Internet Network
>> https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/j5djd7/motherboard-and-vice-are-building-a-community-internet-network-to-protect-net-neutrality
>> It seems that people are all thinking the same thing, but coming up with
>> different things!
> I'm all for what Motherboard and VICE are contemplating. It's a great
> option, and may create an interesting opportunity for wireless mobile, too.
> But that's far more complex to fund and maintain than constructing an
> overlay over an already subscribable infrastructure. I wish them well, and I
> hope that the key idea of maximizing interoperability of all functions
> (including paying for upstream capacity) will be front and center in their
> minds. Balkanization of the subnets of the public Internet is a big worry -
> boundaries will destroy the Internet as effectively as content selectivity
> and content-based rate limiting will.
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