[Cerowrt-devel] linus vs wireguard

dpreed at deepplum.com dpreed at deepplum.com
Thu Aug 2 14:41:17 EDT 2018

I don't like complexity invading the kernel, personally. But it's Linux's monstrous kernel these days. We also seem to have user code being executed in the kernel (eBPF), another very risky thing regarding security, especially.

The kernel mode of a system has incredible and universal power over the entire system. That's why the Principle of Least Privilege, part of the security canon that has proven itself worthy over and over, is as important to OS kernels as the End to End argument is to the Internet.

But Linus, never a security expert himself, has become a celebrity, and therefore his bad ideas are brilliant by definition.

As to the ugliness of IPSec, well, the Linux implementation might be ugly, but its the goddamn standard. Fix the stupid implementation if that is the problem.

Nope, not gonna happen.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Dave Taht" <dave.taht at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 2, 2018 2:26pm
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Subject: [Cerowrt-devel] linus vs wireguard

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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds at linux-foundation.org>
Date: Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [GIT] Networking
To: David Miller <davem at davemloft.net>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm at linux-foundation.org>, Network Development
<netdev at vger.kernel.org>, Linux Kernel Mailing List
<linux-kernel at vger.kernel.org>

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 9:37 PM David Miller <davem at davemloft.net> wrote:
> Fixes keep trickling in:


Btw, on an unrelated issue: I see that Jason actually made the pull
request to have wireguard included in the kernel.

Can I just once again state my love for it and hope it gets merged
soon? Maybe the code isn't perfect, but I've skimmed it, and compared
to the horrors that are OpenVPN and IPSec, it's a work of art.



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