<font face="times new roman" size="2"><p style="margin:0;padding:0;">A non-obvious gateway application that some people like is a "DMZ". In other words, a portion of the home network (one computer), that handles traffic from the outside that one never wants to reach internal resources that are not in the DMZ.</p>
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<p style="margin:0;padding:0;">Home routers often talk about how to setup a DMZ, so there ought to be a way to do so in a routed network.</p>
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<p style="margin:0;padding:0;">Please don't react to this by assuming that I personally like the DMZ concept. I would rather do something more subtle - provide a "honeypot" feature that attracts would-be scanners/attackers to a place where they can do no harm, and where information about them can be collected. (the latter could be a great benefit to consumers who opt-in to it, whereas the DMZ "feature" is often misused by people to get around the problem of NAT getting in the way - sort of an anti-DMZ)</p>
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<p style="margin:0;padding:0;">-----Original Message-----<br />From: "Dave Taht" <dave.taht@gmail.com><br />Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 11:32am<br />To: "Justin Madru" <justin.jdm64@gmail.com><br />Cc: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net<br />Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] DLNA with wired and wireless devices<br /><br /></p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Justin Madru <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:justin.jdm64@gmail.com" target="_blank">justin.jdm64@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br />
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<div dir="ltr">Awesome! It seems to be working now. Thanks!</div>
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<div>OK, so to me this means that routing in the home, rather than bridging, can work even with upnp and dlna. Which makes me happy as I hope to one day be able to explore the effect of bridging gigE and wireless in larger scale networks. I have plenty of raw data showing how bad an idea it is, but nothing comprehensive as yet.</div>
<div>A core question for me then becomes, how does upnp deal with multiple routers in the home, if they aren't natted?</div>
<div>Another item is that upnp has the ability to advertise the available bandwidth to clients, and I was thinking of storing the rate limiting for ceroshaper in that rather that in a dedicated file. Does anything actually use that information? What do common bittorrent clients do with upnp nowadays? How about skype?</div>
<div>Are there any other common gateway applications that are going to break in a routed environment?</div>
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