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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoPlainText>I have a Verizon FIOS internet, and also use the interactive TV and phone services using my WNDR-3800 with CeroWRT.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>I have a 75 Mb/s down / 25 Mb/s up residential service in Lexington MA<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>I have an WNDR3800 running CeroWRT 3.10.24-8 and it is directly connected to the ONT (Optical Network Terminator), and no Verizon Router.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>To get the interactive TV (guide, multi room dvr, and video on demand) you need to bridge the ethernet LAN of the router to the TV Coax in order to control the settop box and send the video content from the internet to the settop box.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>The easiest way to bridge the Ethernet network to the Coax is to use a MoCA bridge (Media Over Coax Alliance).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimedia_over_Coax_Alliance">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimedia_over_Coax_Alliance</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>D-link, Actiontec, and Netgear offer these MoCA bridges and they are under $100. You can run them with the factory defaults in this mode (lan mode). There is also a WAN mode if you want to use the COAX to the WAN interface of the router which is useful if you only have COAX wiring in your home and you want to locate your router in a different location from the ONT Ethernet jack.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>You need one MoCA bridge to interconnect the Coax to the standard twisted pair Lan connection on your router.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>The working topology is Verizon ONT Ethernet port to WAN interface on CeroWRT router, Moca Bridge in one of the LAN interfaces.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>Verizon residential service provides one public IP via DHCP, and this IP is bound to the MAC address of the router (which is also typical of residential services of cable providers such as Comcast).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-family:Symbol'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>·<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]>To successfully connect the new router (and get a DHCP address), you need to either clone the MAC address of the Verizon supplied router or call Verizon and have them break the DHCP lease from their end.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I have successfully been running versions of CeroWRT for about six months, and very much appreciate the great work to conquer Bufferbloat. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I have had no issues on the WNDR-3800 getting full throughput of up to 80 mb/s down, 30 mb/s up using speedtest.net (with speed throttling off. The throughput and latency results are excellent when I set the speed throttling to 75 down / 25 up, per speedtest.net, pingtest.net and <a href="http://netalyzr.icsi.berkeley.edu/index.html"><span class=txt-icsi><span style='color:blue;text-decoration:none'>ICSI</span></span> <span class=txt-isp><span style='color:blue'>Netalyzr</span></span></a> even on wireless. Running a ping test in command prompt also shows very low latency even when running a full speedtest both up and down on both a wired or wireless connection.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Thanks for the great work being done. I am using this for our home network. Should I update to the latest version 3.10.32-10 or is there a new stable in the near future?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Frits Riep<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Ekaru, LLC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<br>From: cerowrt-devel-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net [mailto:cerowrt-devel-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net] On Behalf Of cerowrt-devel-request@lists.bufferbloat.net<br>Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 1:58 AM<br>To: cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net<br>Subject: Cerowrt-devel Digest, Vol 28, Issue 19<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Send Cerowrt-devel mailing list submissions to<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <a href="mailto:cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net">cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <a href="https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <a href="mailto:cerowrt-devel-request@lists.bufferbloat.net"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>cerowrt-devel-request@lists.bufferbloat.net</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>You can reach the person managing the list at<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <a href="mailto:cerowrt-devel-owner@lists.bufferbloat.net"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>cerowrt-devel-owner@lists.bufferbloat.net</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Cerowrt-devel digest..."<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Today's Topics:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> 1. Problem with Verizon fios router (Ernesto Elias)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> 2. Re: Problem with Verizon fios router (Dave Taht)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> 3. Re: Problem with Verizon fios router (Stephen Hemminger)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>----------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Message: 1<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 00:34:10 -0400<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From: Ernesto Elias <<a href="mailto:ernestogelias@gmail.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>ernestogelias@gmail.com</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To: <a href="mailto:cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: [Cerowrt-devel] Problem with Verizon fios router<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Message-ID:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <<a href="mailto:CAAMzHDbd44s4_n_Yy6YwFFG1n4oXnnDtHR_O_i-U=_wLvM=92w@mail.gmail.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>CAAMzHDbd44s4_n_Yy6YwFFG1n4oXnnDtHR_O_i-U=_wLvM=92w@mail.gmail.com</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Hello everyone I'm having trouble with the actiontec router supplied by Verizon fios, since I have the bundle service of TV and Internet I need the fios router to be able to watch on demand but I ran into a problem. It's that when I made the ont box go Ethernet to be able to use my wndr3800 running cerowrt on it to reduce buffer bloat and so I plugged an Ethernet cable to one of the Lan port of the wndr3800 to the WAN port of the actiontec it would seem that the set top boxes don't get a signal and when I click on the remote to check diagnostic it says that the external network is down and we'll I have question is there anything I have to do special for the actiontec to get Internet connection to the stb?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-------------- next part --------------<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>URL: <<a href="https://lists.bufferbloat.net/pipermail/cerowrt-devel/attachments/20140319/79ce1c16/attachment-0001.html"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>https://lists.bufferbloat.net/pipermail/cerowrt-devel/attachments/20140319/79ce1c16/attachment-0001.html</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Message: 2<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 22:43:05 -0700<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From: Dave Taht <<a href="mailto:dave.taht@gmail.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>dave.taht@gmail.com</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To: Ernesto Elias <<a href="mailto:ernestogelias@gmail.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>ernestogelias@gmail.com</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Cc: "<a href="mailto:cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net</span></a>"<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <<a href="mailto:cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problem with Verizon fios router<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Message-ID:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <<a href="mailto:CAA93jw6R6Qf8q7-7j3QEfMkShZwW3ySDE825bgWWx_49258oog@mail.gmail.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>CAA93jw6R6Qf8q7-7j3QEfMkShZwW3ySDE825bgWWx_49258oog@mail.gmail.com</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>The wan port of cero should be plugged into the the lan port of the actiontec, not the reverse.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>You probably want to configure the actiontec as a bridge in this instance if it isn't already.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Ernesto Elias <<a href="mailto:ernestogelias@gmail.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>ernestogelias@gmail.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Hello everyone I'm having trouble with the actiontec router supplied <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> by Verizon fios, since I have the bundle service of TV and Internet I <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> need the fios router to be able to watch on demand but I ran into a <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> problem. It's that when I made the ont box go Ethernet to be able to <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> use my wndr3800 running cerowrt on it to reduce buffer bloat and so I <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> plugged an Ethernet cable to one of the Lan port of the wndr3800 to <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> the WAN port of the actiontec it would seem that the set top boxes <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> don't get a signal and when I click on the remote to check diagnostic <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> it says that the external network is down and we'll I have question is <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> there anything I have to do special for the actiontec to get Internet connection to the stb?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> _______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Cerowrt-devel mailing list<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <a href="mailto:Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>Cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> <a href="https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cerowrt-devel</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>--<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Dave T?ht<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Fixing bufferbloat with cerowrt: <a href="http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.html"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>http://www.teklibre.com/cerowrt/subscribe.html</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Message: 3<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2014 22:57:27 -0700<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From: Stephen Hemminger <<a href="mailto:stephen@networkplumber.org"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>stephen@networkplumber.org</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To: Dave Taht <<a href="mailto:dave.taht@gmail.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>dave.taht@gmail.com</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Cc: Ernesto Elias <<a href="mailto:ernestogelias@gmail.com"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>ernestogelias@gmail.com</span></a>>,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> "<a href="mailto:cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net</span></a>"<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText> <<a href="mailto:cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>cerowrt-devel@lists.bufferbloat.net</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: Re: [Cerowrt-devel] Problem with Verizon fios router<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:20140318225727.38ed26c3@nehalam.linuxnetplumber.net"><span style='color:windowtext;text-decoration:none'>20140318225727.38ed26c3@nehalam.linuxnetplumber.net</span></a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Content-Type: text/plain; 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