<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 7:56 PM, Aaron Wood <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:woody77@gmail.com" target="_blank">woody77@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">But until the silicon vendors update _their_ forks of OpenWRT, commercially available home routers won't have these benefits. Because the home router market is dominated by packaged reference designs from one of a very small number of companies that actually make all the chipsets (Dave, I know you know this, I'm mostly just choir-preaching myself).</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;display:inline">I was talking to one of the major chipset vendors just this last Thursday.</div> </div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;display:inline"></div>We have to fork-lift upgrade all of these devices, ASAP.</div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default">And change how we build/maintain these systems, and do business in embedded systems.</div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default">See my Berkman Center talk here:</div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;display:inline"><a href="http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/events/luncheon/2014/06/gettys">http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/events/luncheon/2014/06/gettys</a></div> </div><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">We'll be struggling with the policies issues the rest of our lives (which is why I presented to the Berkman Center).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Also read Dan Geer's policy piece in Lawfare the Lawfare blog.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style><a href="http://www.lawfareblog.com/2014/04/heartbleed-as-metaphor/">http://www.lawfareblog.com/2014/04/heartbleed-as-metaphor/</a><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style>Bruce Schneier's piece in Wired on the IOT is also very good, but aimed at a mass audience.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I will be publishing and updated version of the talk very soon; the situation is yet more perilous since June, and my explanations clearer.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Jim</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"></div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>-Aaron</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Dave Taht <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dave.taht@gmail.com" target="_blank">dave.taht@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">There's nothing new here, but it was a nice rant to get out of my system:<br>
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<a href="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.operators.nanog/128201" target="_blank">http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.org.operators.nanog/128201</a><br>
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Of late, I have been taking a page from Linus Torvalds' playbook, in<br>
realizing that "on the internet, no-one can hear you being subtle",<br>
and BOY, am I done with that.<br>
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--<br>
Dave Täht<br>
Let's make wifi fast, less jittery and reliable again!<br>
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