<div dir="ltr"><br><div>Yep, I'm here. Thanks for reading my research! If there are any questions about the technique, I'd be glad to answer them. While technically Open Secure Wireless works, the user experience is not acceptable. The biggest hurdle remains industry standards and client support. </div><div><br></div><div>Christopher</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Ranganathan Krishnan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rk@selwastor.com" target="_blank">rk@selwastor.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
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We have Chris Byrd from Riosec on the ow-tech mailing list. Check<br>
out this thread from him last year :<br>
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<a href="https://lists.eff.org/pipermail/ow-tech/2014-May/000031.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.eff.org/pipermail/ow-tech/2014-May/000031.html</a><br>
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I have this feature enabled on the Openwireless APs. What is needed<br>
is a campaign with the Client manufactureres (Google, Cyanogen,<br>
Apple etc) to get them to fix the bugs in their implementation that<br>
cause their clients to abort if no client certificate is installed -- even<br>
though the connection would succeed since the server will never<br>
request the client cert.<br>
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If there is interest in sustaining such a campaign with the Client<br>
manufacturers, I will be happy to contribute.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
Ranga<br>
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On Jun 17, 2015, at 8:47 AM, Dave Taht <<a href="mailto:dave.taht@gmail.com">dave.taht@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> In the alphabet soup of wireless standards, I had not heard of 802.11u<br>
> before now.<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.riosec.com/articles/open-secure-wireless-20" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.riosec.com/articles/open-secure-wireless-20</a><br>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
> From: Mitar <<a href="mailto:mmitar@gmail.com">mmitar@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Date: Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 4:29 AM<br>
> Subject: [Ow-tech] Open secure wireless<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:ow-tech@lists.eff.org">ow-tech@lists.eff.org</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> Hi!<br>
><br>
> Reading this old post:<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/04/open-wireless-movement" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/04/open-wireless-movement</a><br>
><br>
> I wanted to point some research done on this some time ago:<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.riosec.com/articles/Open-Secure-Wireless" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.riosec.com/articles/Open-Secure-Wireless</a><br>
> <a href="http://www.riosec.com/articles/Open-Secure-Wireless/Open-Secure-Wireless.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.riosec.com/articles/Open-Secure-Wireless/Open-Secure-Wireless.pdf</a><br>
><br>
> And also some progress:<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.riosec.com/articles/open-secure-wireless-20" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.riosec.com/articles/open-secure-wireless-20</a><br>
><br>
> If you are not doing that already, I think EFF should get on board of<br>
> supporting those changes to the standard.<br>
><br>
> (BTW, originally, as presented in 1.0 paper, WiFi standard does allow<br>
> open and secure connections, just no operating system really<br>
> implements it because they all first prompt for the password, before<br>
> trying to connect to the encrypted WiFi network to figure out the<br>
> password is really required.)<br>
><br>
><br>
> Mitar<br>
><br>
> --<br>
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