[Ecn-sane] Meanwhile, over on NANOG...
Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
toke at toke.dk
Tue Nov 12 08:02:23 EST 2019
Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike at swm.pp.se> writes:
> On Tue, 12 Nov 2019, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
>
>> I'm not on the nanog list, but feel free to cross-post; would be good to
>> actually get to the bottom of this issue! Marek and I already had an
>> off-list back-and-forth after that original thread, and we couldn't find
>> anything wrong on the Cloudflare side. And the RSTs have a higher TTL
>> than the actual traffic, indicating an in-path problem...
>
> tcptraceroute supports setting/clearing ECN bits (-E), would be very
> interesting to see difference between those tcptraceroutes?
No difference. But the RST is not being sent as a response to the SYN;
it is sent in response to the first data packet...
... and now that I'm re-testing, things were working for a little while,
but now the bug is back. I got an intermittent successful connection
with the same TTL that I was previously getting the RST from. And now
I'm back to getting RSTed.
So I guess there's some kind of multipath issue here; ECMP path,
multiple routing upstreams, or a broken load balancer? Any other ideas?
-Toke
tcpdump output:
With ECN, and failing. Notice TTL 59 for the SYNACK, but TTL 61 for the
RST:
00:00:00.000000 d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c > cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 74: (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 21817, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 60)
85.204.121.218.33376 > 1.1.1.1.80: Flags [SEW], cksum 0x5284 (correct), seq 1677914250, win 64240, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 438384324 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
00:00:00.006962 cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20 > d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 66: (tos 0x0, ttl 59, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 52)
1.1.1.1.80 > 85.204.121.218.33376: Flags [S.E], cksum 0x4e79 (correct), seq 1887212753, ack 1677914251, win 29200, options [mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK,nop,wscale 10], length 0
00:00:00.000614 d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c > cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 54: (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 21818, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 40)
85.204.121.218.33376 > 1.1.1.1.80: Flags [.], cksum 0xffa8 (correct), seq 1, ack 1, win 502, length 0
00:00:00.000255 d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c > cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 125: (tos 0x2,ECT(0), ttl 63, id 21819, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 111)
85.204.121.218.33376 > 1.1.1.1.80: Flags [P.], cksum 0x05e5 (correct), seq 1:72, ack 1, win 502, length 71: HTTP, length: 71
GET / HTTP/1.1
Host: 1.1.1.1
User-Agent: curl/7.66.0
Accept: */*
00:00:00.001714 cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20 > d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 60: (tos 0x2,ECT(0), ttl 61, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 40)
1.1.1.1.80 > 85.204.121.218.33376: Flags [R], cksum 0x5639 (correct), seq 1887212754, win 0, length 0
Without ECN; succeeding, with TTL 59:
00:00:00.000000 d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c > cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 74: (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 54830, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 60)
85.204.121.218.33362 > 1.1.1.1.80: Flags [S], cksum 0x5430 (correct), seq 922398600, win 64240, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 438346737 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
00:00:00.006895 cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20 > d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 66: (tos 0x0, ttl 59, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 52)
1.1.1.1.80 > 85.204.121.218.33362: Flags [S.], cksum 0xbdf8 (correct), seq 1251654028, ack 922398601, win 29200, options [mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK,nop,wscale 10], length 0
00:00:00.000570 d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c > cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 54: (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 54831, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 40)
85.204.121.218.33362 > 1.1.1.1.80: Flags [.], cksum 0x6ee8 (correct), seq 1, ack 1, win 502, length 0
00:00:00.000261 d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c > cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 125: (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 54832, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 111)
85.204.121.218.33362 > 1.1.1.1.80: Flags [P.], cksum 0x7524 (correct), seq 1:72, ack 1, win 502, length 71: HTTP, length: 71
GET / HTTP/1.1
Host: 1.1.1.1
User-Agent: curl/7.66.0
Accept: */*
00:00:00.006955 cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20 > d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 60: (tos 0x0, ttl 59, id 46658, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 40)
1.1.1.1.80 > 85.204.121.218.33362: Flags [.], cksum 0x707a (correct), seq 1, ack 72, win 29, length 0
00:00:00.004938 cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20 > d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 609: (tos 0x0, ttl 59, id 46659, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 595)
1.1.1.1.80 > 85.204.121.218.33362: Flags [P.], cksum 0x13dc (correct), seq 1:556, ack 72, win 29, length 555: HTTP, length: 555
HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2019 09:33:56 GMT
Content-Type: text/html
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Connection: keep-alive
Location: https://1.1.1.1/
Served-In-Seconds: 0.000
CF-Cache-Status: HIT
Age: 3920
Expires: Fri, 20 Sep 2019 13:33:56 GMT
Cache-Control: public, max-age=14400
Server: cloudflare
CF-RAY: 5192ccfbeeefd47b-HAM
ba
<html>
<head><title>301 Moved Permanently</title></head>
<body bgcolor="white">
<center><h1>301 Moved Permanently</h1></center>
<hr><center>cloudflare-lb</center>
</body>
</html>
00:00:00.000002 cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20 > d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 60: (tos 0x0, ttl 59, id 46660, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 45)
1.1.1.1.80 > 85.204.121.218.33362: Flags [P.], cksum 0x2a28 (correct), seq 556:561, ack 72, win 29, length 5: HTTP
00:00:00.000549 d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c > cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 54: (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 54833, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 40)
85.204.121.218.33362 > 1.1.1.1.80: Flags [.], cksum 0x6c77 (correct), seq 72, ack 556, win 501, length 0
00:00:00.000266 d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c > cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 54: (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 54834, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 40)
85.204.121.218.33362 > 1.1.1.1.80: Flags [.], cksum 0x6c72 (correct), seq 72, ack 561, win 501, length 0
00:00:00.000217 d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c > cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 54: (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 54835, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 40)
85.204.121.218.33362 > 1.1.1.1.80: Flags [F.], cksum 0x6c71 (correct), seq 72, ack 561, win 501, length 0
00:00:00.007287 cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20 > d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 60: (tos 0x0, ttl 59, id 46661, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 40)
1.1.1.1.80 > 85.204.121.218.33362: Flags [F.], cksum 0x6e48 (correct), seq 561, ack 73, win 29, length 0
00:00:00.000504 d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c > cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 54: (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 54836, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 40)
85.204.121.218.33362 > 1.1.1.1.80: Flags [.], cksum 0x6c70 (correct), seq 73, ack 562, win 501, length 0
00:00:05.170886 d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c > cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 74: (tos 0x0, ttl 64, id 11852, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 60)
And that one time it worked, with TTL 61:
13:47:54.908967 d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c > cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 74: (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 53207, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 60)
85.204.121.218.48924 > 1.1.1.1.80: Flags [SEW], cksum 0xa5de (correct), seq 3526272449, win 64240, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 513441489 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
13:47:54.910220 cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20 > d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 66: (tos 0x0, ttl 61, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 52)
1.1.1.1.80 > 85.204.121.218.48924: Flags [S.E], cksum 0x17dd (correct), seq 633452041, ack 3526272450, win 29200, options [mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK,nop,wscale 10], length 0
13:47:54.910747 d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c > cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 54: (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 53208, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 40)
85.204.121.218.48924 > 1.1.1.1.80: Flags [.], cksum 0xc90c (correct), seq 1, ack 1, win 502, length 0
13:47:54.910990 d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c > cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 125: (tos 0x2,ECT(0), ttl 63, id 53209, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 111)
85.204.121.218.48924 > 1.1.1.1.80: Flags [P.], cksum 0xcf48 (correct), seq 1:72, ack 1, win 502, length 71: HTTP, length: 71
GET / HTTP/1.1
Host: 1.1.1.1
User-Agent: curl/7.66.0
Accept: */*
13:47:55.119451 d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c > cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 125: (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 53210, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 111)
85.204.121.218.48924 > 1.1.1.1.80: Flags [P.], cksum 0xcf48 (correct), seq 1:72, ack 1, win 502, length 71: HTTP, length: 71
GET / HTTP/1.1
Host: 1.1.1.1
User-Agent: curl/7.66.0
Accept: */*
13:47:55.120638 cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20 > d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 60: (tos 0x0, ttl 61, id 41447, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 40)
1.1.1.1.80 > 85.204.121.218.48924: Flags [.], cksum 0xca9e (correct), seq 1, ack 72, win 29, length 0
13:47:55.130264 cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20 > d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 609: (tos 0x2,ECT(0), ttl 61, id 41448, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 595)
1.1.1.1.80 > 85.204.121.218.48924: Flags [P.], cksum 0xde5e (correct), seq 1:556, ack 72, win 29, length 555: HTTP, length: 555
HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 12:47:55 GMT
Content-Type: text/html
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Connection: keep-alive
Location: https://1.1.1.1/
Served-In-Seconds: 0.000
CF-Cache-Status: HIT
Age: 2976
Expires: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 16:47:55 GMT
Cache-Control: public, max-age=14400
Server: cloudflare
CF-RAY: 53489e018ad8d885-CPH
ba
<html>
<head><title>301 Moved Permanently</title></head>
<body bgcolor="white">
<center><h1>301 Moved Permanently</h1></center>
<hr><center>cloudflare-lb</center>
</body>
</html>
13:47:55.130265 cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20 > d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 60: (tos 0x2,ECT(0), ttl 61, id 41449, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 45)
1.1.1.1.80 > 85.204.121.218.48924: Flags [P.], cksum 0x844c (correct), seq 556:561, ack 72, win 29, length 5: HTTP
13:47:55.130777 d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c > cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 54: (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 53211, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 40)
85.204.121.218.48924 > 1.1.1.1.80: Flags [.], cksum 0xc69b (correct), seq 72, ack 556, win 501, length 0
13:47:55.131097 d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c > cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 54: (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 53212, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 40)
85.204.121.218.48924 > 1.1.1.1.80: Flags [.], cksum 0xc696 (correct), seq 72, ack 561, win 501, length 0
13:47:55.131491 d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c > cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 54: (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 53213, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 40)
85.204.121.218.48924 > 1.1.1.1.80: Flags [F.], cksum 0xc695 (correct), seq 72, ack 561, win 501, length 0
13:47:55.132804 cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20 > d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 60: (tos 0x0, ttl 61, id 41450, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 40)
1.1.1.1.80 > 85.204.121.218.48924: Flags [F.], cksum 0xc86c (correct), seq 561, ack 73, win 29, length 0
13:47:55.133281 d8:58:d7:00:1d:2c > cc:1a:fa:e2:bb:20, ethertype IPv4 (0x0800), length 54: (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 53214, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 40)
85.204.121.218.48924 > 1.1.1.1.80: Flags [.], cksum 0xc694 (correct), seq 73, ack 562, win 501, length 0
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