<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 10, 2019, at 7:00 AM, Ted Lemon <<a href="mailto:mellon@fugue.com" class="">mellon@fugue.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">On May 10, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Joe Touch <<a href="mailto:touch@strayalpha.com" class="">touch@strayalpha.com</a>> wrote:<div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">The only people who get a fully free ride that I know of are the IEEE Comsoc Board.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Menlo-Regular; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">Hm. I’ve never paid to attend IETF. Granted, this is not because IETF comped me, but because I was fortunate enough to have an employer who could afford to send me at no cost to me.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This model unfortunately doesn’t work for open source developers who are not on the payroll of a company with deep pockets.</div></div></div></blockquote><br class="">Nor academics. I stopped coming because I couldn’t find a gov’t agency interested in supporting my participation either (and my current employer doesn’t either).<br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div>This is a problem not only for general attendance but also for the IESG - which impacts some decisions being made as well.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Joe</div><br class=""></body></html>