[LibreQoS] [Bloat] gamebench quote

Sebastian Moeller moeller0 at gmx.de
Mon Nov 14 03:41:09 EST 2022

Hi Robert,

This is surprisingly rich in useful information and quite lean on marketing (given that this is marketing material having easily accessible links to source material is unusually open*). Nice. 


*) Personally that approach would likely reel me in as customer, if I lived in your service area ;)

On 14 November 2022 00:16:57 CET, "Robert Chacón via Bloat" <bloat at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>Same here. We compete primarily against Charter Spectrum in the suburbs.
>Gamers and twitch streamers switch to us frequently due to the high upload
>bloat and jitter on Spectrum's network.
>We made a page on our website <https://jackrabbitwireless.com/performance/>
>that tries to educate prospective clients about latency and bloat. I added
>the GameBench quote to it (thanks, Dave!)
>Surprisingly, some people do read it and it helps ease their minds about
>"speed" when they're used to being bombarded with messaging about needing
>gigabit bandwidth.
>> I'm happy enough if TDS and Spectrum take their sweet time figuring out
>that latency is important :D
>This! That and their inability to really do whole-home WiFi at scale helps
>WISPs offer a true performance answer to cable internet.
>On Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 3:56 PM dan via LibreQoS <
>libreqos at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>> This is definitely our focus.  We preach low latency first and better
>> uploads second, downloads are a distant third.  We do have to advertise the
>> faster speeds just to get into the conversation because Spectrum for
>> example and now TDS are all about 1G or 2G services.  See my other email
>> though, Spectrum's latency and jitter is garbage, TDS is actually worse
>> than that to many services but I don't have a remote login to a TDS site at
>> the moment.  I'm 15ms more from AWS Oregon on TDS than Spectrum, and I'm
>> 20ms better than Spectrum on Lumen DIA.
>> I'm happy enough if TDS and Spectrum take their sweet time figuring out
>> that latency is important :D
>> On Sun, Nov 13, 2022 at 3:52 PM Dave Taht via LibreQoS <
>> libreqos at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>>> https://www.gamebench.net/network-performance-and-gamer-experience-the-us-edition/
>>> "Overall, the consistently reinforced takeaway is that latency has now
>>> clearly overtaken broadband speed as the focus area for network
>>> providers seeking to provide – and guarantee and commercially benefit
>>> from – optimum experience in both online multiplayer and cloud
>>> gaming."
>>> --
>>> This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work:
>>> https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-6981366665607352320-FXtz
>>> Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
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