[LibreQoS] 500/household

dan dandenson at gmail.com
Mon Nov 21 11:43:39 EST 2022

Having done some engineering working areas with average incomes in the
$15/month range and all services being provided by NGOs and gov aid... most
people I talk to really have no idea how internet access works in less
privileged parts of the world.

I think much of the western world has lost sight of what the internet means
because it's taken for granted.  Now it's how our netflix comes in or how
our kids get their fortnite etc.  Covid definitely woke many up because
people had to do work from home, but it's still just not the big of a
priority in peoples minds.  I mean, americans will suffer through terrible
service on a $50 plan and have to work from home on that while having a
$300 per adult cigarette bill.    Go to Nepal, internet bill comes before
many things, they'll even skip a meal to keep their internet service

Go to rural Nepal or Cambodia and it's the only thing that links them to
the rest of the world, and primarily via messaging apps.  Maybe 5Mbps of
unreliable connectivity for everyone to share.

On Sun, Nov 20, 2022 at 11:58 PM Dave Taht via LibreQoS <
libreqos at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke at gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, Nov 20, 2022, 2:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Alternative Re: ipv4/25s and above
> To: Mark Tinka <mark at tinka.africa>
> Cc: <nanog at nanog.org>
> If I had a dollar for every person who has lived their entire life in a
> high-income western country (US, Canada, western Europe, etc) and has zero
> personal experience in developing-nation telecom/ISP operations and their
> unique operational requirements, yet thinks they've qualified to offer an
> opinion on it...
> People should go look at some of the WISPs in the Philippines for an
> example of ISPs building last and middle mile infrastructure on extremely
> limited budgets. Or really just about anywhere else where the residential
> broadband market has households where the entire household monthly income
> is the equivalent of $500 USD.
> On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 at 04:59, Mark Tinka <mark at tinka.africa> wrote:
>> On 11/19/22 05:50, Abraham Y. Chen wrote:
>> > Dear Owen:
>> >
>> > 1) "... Africa ... They don’t really have a lot of alternatives. ...":
>> > Actually, there is, simple and in plain sight. Please have a look at
>> > the below IETF Draft:
>> It's most amusing, to me, how Africa needs to be told how to be...
>> Some folk just can't help themselves.
>> Mark.
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