[LibreQoS] Fwd: [New post] More Mapping Drama

Brian Munyao Longwe blongwe at gmail.com
Wed Apr 12 11:33:10 EDT 2023

Thanks for sharing,

Are you aware that after receiving ISOC training at the INET 99 networking
workshop for developing countries in San Jose way back in 1999 - I went
back to my (then) home country, Kenya, and built/started KIXP with
assistance from Cisco and hands on support from Barry Raveendran Greene
(formerly Cisco)?

Thereafter and for next 8 odd years as GM for AfrISPA (African ISP
Association) I turned up or helped turn up IXPs in about 12 other African
countries - mostly funded under a project called “Catalysing Access to ICTs
in Africa” funded by UKs DFID, Canada’s IDRC and others.

I even did a couple of trips with Bill Woodcock in Africa and Asia.



On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 at 4:28 PM, Dave Taht via LibreQoS <
libreqos at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> I would like to bring back the IXP concepts in the USA.
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Jane Coffin <jane at connecthumanity.fund>
> Date: Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 10:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [New post] More Mapping Drama
> To: Garland McCoy <garland.mccoy at pagcasa.org>
> Cc: Dave Taht <dave.taht at gmail.com>, National Broadband Mapping Coalition
> <bbcoalition at marconisociety.org>, Bill Woodcock <woody at pch.net>
> Actually.  Bill is one of the IXP masters, but....
>  ISOC has done a helluva lot of IXP build around the world, and I would
> tip my hat to Michuki Mwangi (ISOC) and Nishal Goburdhan (PCH) along with
> some folks at Netnod (Swedish exchange), and INEX (Irish exchange - used
> those cats for training and they came up with the brilliant app - IXP
> Manager).  I also would tag Philip Smith (NSRC and father of BGP and LINX),
> Christian O'Flaherty - one of my partners in crime on IXP build, Hisham
> Ibrahim (formerly with AfriNIC and now with RIPE NCC), Jan Zorz (was with
> ISOC now a v6 evangelist), Karen Rose (formerly with ISOC), Naveed Haq and
> Aftab Siddiqui (of ISOC), Brent McIntosh (Grenada), and Bevil Wooding
> (formerly with PCH and now with ARIN).  I also would note the amazing work
> that the IXP Associations have done around the planet, and note the Peering
> Forums - PIFs that ISOC with partners like PCH created around the world -
> except for the US.  AfPIF - the African Peering and Interconnection Forum
> and CarPIF - the Caribbean Peering and Interconnection Forum, BKNIX, the
> Bangkok Peering forum.  One can't talk about IXPs without a nod to NOGs
> (Network Operator Groups).  The US had the first NOG - NANOG, and they have
> taken off from there.  ISOC uses NOGs, and PIFs, and IXPs, and the RIRs to
> promote Mutually Agreed Norms for Routing Security (MANRS)...great
> initiative and I would urge anyone looking at secure routing to chat with
> them and the RIRs (RPKI etc).
> Note that ISOC is the only org that has put out multiple studies that show
> over time and via snapshots the importance of IXPs to build your local
> Internet, increase resilience, allow for redundancy of nets at the local
> level, and has tracked how much latency diminishes, performance increases,
> and how quickly prices drop.
> Big Telcos in the US nearly killed bottom-up carrier neutral IXPs.  Thank
> goodness for ISOC, the RIRs (LACNIC, AfriNIC, ARIN, APNIC, and RIPE NCC),
> ICANN, IETF to a degree, NSRC, PCH, the NOGs, and the Peering Fora for
> keeping network training, the importance of diverse peering ecosystems, and
> the IXPs that are making a resurgence in the US.
> It takes a village.  A well-trained diverse village.
> On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 9:51 AM Garland McCoy <garland.mccoy at pagcasa.org>
> wrote:
>>  Dave, I am sure Jane would agree that THE global master IXP builder is
>> Bill Woodcock and his colleagues at Packet Clearing House (
>> https://www.pch.net/) Bill has been doing this for decades (and decades
>> and decades). I have cced him in so you can circle the wagons. If by any
>> chance you want SECURE Edges as part of your IXP deployment you should look
>> up Onclave Networks (see link below)
>>  https://onclavenetworks.com/
>> On Apr 10, 2023, at 9:40 AM, Jane Coffin <jane at connecthumanity.fund>
>> wrote:
>> Dave -
>> On IXPs - I can give you a lot of global examples.  On the US - less so.
>> One of the founders of SF-MIX is at Connect Humanity and is talking to some
>> folks about neutral/bottom-up IXPs - ISOC style, IFX, Euro-IX, Af-IX,
>> LAC-IX, and AP-IX style.
>> ISOC also has some excellent reports that show the impact of IXPs in
>> countries - cheaper, better, faster local connectivity - and local
>> resiliency and redundancy vs tromboning traffic that benefits
>> transit/transport vs local fabric.
>> Jane
>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 9:08 AM Dave Taht <dave.taht at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> While I frequently do not agree with doug´s blog, he does make for
>>> interesting reading, and oy! a bill to slow things down further... :(
>>> I am also curious as to the state of the cybergeography these days.
>>> (anyone remember this old project?
>>> https://web.archive.org/web/20060218123215/http://www.cybergeography.org/atlas/topology.html
>>> )
>>> I have been researching the state of the IXPs nowadays, and kind of
>>> wondering if there was a noticeable difference in service quality between
>>> cities with IXPs and those without. Anyone?
>>> https://www.pch.net/ixp/summary_growth_by_country#!mt-sort=ixp_current%2Cdesc!mt-pivot=ixp_current
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> From: POTs and PANs <donotreply at wordpress.com>
>>> Date: Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 4:35 AM
>>> Subject: [New post] More Mapping Drama
>>> To: <dave.taht at gmail.com>
>>> [image: Site logo image] Doug Dawson, CCG Consulting posted: "As if the
>>> federal mapping process needed more drama, Senator Jacky Rosen (Dem-Nevada)
>>> and John Thune (Rep-South Dakota) have introduced bill S.1162 that would
>>> “ensure that broadband maps are accurate before funds are allocated under
>>> the Broadband Equity, " POTs and PANs <https://potsandpansbyccg.com/> More
>>> Mapping Drama
>>> <https://public-api.wordpress.com/bar/?stat=groovemails-events&bin=wpcom_email_click&redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fpotsandpansbyccg.com%2F2023%2F04%2F10%2Fmore-mapping-drama%2F&sr=0&signature=cb143a1d8898a71681aebd52278c0bf3&blog_id=49312101&user=97642389&_e=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&_z=z>
>>> Doug Dawson, CCG Consulting
>>> Apr 10
>>> <https://potsandpansbyccg.com/2022/12/19/the-individual-fcc-map-challenge/fcc-broadband-map/#main>As
>>> if the federal mapping process needed more drama, Senator Jacky Rosen
>>> (Dem-Nevada) and John Thune (Rep-South Dakota) have introduced bill S.1162
>>> that would “ensure that broadband maps are accurate before funds are
>>> allocated under the Broadband Equity, Access, and Deployment Program based
>>> on those maps”.
>>> If this law is enacted, the distribution of most of the BEAD grant funds
>>> to States would be delayed by at least six months, probably longer. The
>>> NTIA has already said that it intends to announce the allocation of the
>>> $42.5 billion in grants to the states on June 30. The funds are supposed to
>>> be allocated using the best count of unserved and underserved locations in
>>> each state on that date. Unserved locations are those that can’t buy
>>> broadband of at least 25/3 Mbps. Underserved locations are those unable to
>>> buy broadband with speeds of at least 100/20 Mbps.
>>> To add to the story, FCC Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel recently
>>> announced that the FCC has largely completed the broadband map updates.
>>> That announcement surprised the folks in the industry who have been working
>>> with the map data, since everybody I talk to is still seeing a lot of
>>> inaccuracies in the maps.
>>> To the FCC’s credit, its vendor CostQuest has been processing thousands
>>> of individual challenges to the maps daily and has addressed 600 bulk
>>> challenges that have been filed by States, counties, and other local
>>> government entities. In making the announcement, Rosenworcel said that the
>>> new map has added over one million new locations to the broadband map –
>>> homes and businesses that were missed in the creation of the first version
>>> of the map last fall.
>>> But the FCC map has two important components that must be correct for
>>> the overall maps to be correct. The first is the mapping fabric that is
>>> supposed to identify every location in the country that is a potential
>>> broadband customer. I view this as a nearly impossible task. The US Census
>>> spends many billions every ten years to identify the addresses of residents
>>> and businesses in the country. CostQuest tried to duplicate the same thing
>>> on a much smaller budget and with the time pressure of the maps being used
>>> to allocate these grants. It’s challenging to count potential broadband
>>> customers. I wrote a blog last year
>>> <https://potsandpansbyccg.com/2022/09/19/the-fcc-mapping-fabric/> that
>>> outlined a few of the dozens of issues that must be addressed to get an
>>> accurate map. It’s hard to think that CostQuest somehow figured out all of
>>> these complicated questions in the last six months.
>>> Even if the fabric is much improved, the more important issue is that
>>> the accuracy of the broadband map is reliant on two issues that are
>>> reported by ISPs – the coverage area where an ISP should be able to connect
>>> a new customer within ten days of a request, and the broadband speeds that
>>> are available to a home or business at each location.
>>> ISPs are pretty much free to claim whatever they want. While there has
>>> been a lot of work done to challenge the fabric and the location of
>>> possible customers – it’s a lot harder to challenge the coverage claims of
>>> specific ISPs. A true challenge would require many millions of individual
>>> challenges about the broadband that is available at each home.
>>> Just consider my own home. The national broadband map says there are ten
>>> ISPs available at my address. Several I’ve never heard of, and I’m willing
>>> to bet that at least a few of them can’t serve me – but since I’m already
>>> buying broadband from an ISP, I can’t think of any reason that would lead
>>> me to challenge the claims of the ISPs I’m not using. The FCC thinks that
>>> the challenge process will somehow fix the coverage issue – I can’t imagine
>>> that more than a tiny fraction of folks are ever going to care enough to go
>>> through the FCC map challenge process – or even know that the broadband map
>>> exists.
>>> The FCC mapping has also not yet figured out how to come to grips with
>>> broadband coverage claimed by wireless ISPs. It’s not hard looking through
>>> the FCC data to find numerous WISPs that claim large coverage areas. In
>>> real life, the availability of a wireless connection is complicated. The
>>> FCC reporting is in the process of requiring wireless carriers to report
>>> using a ‘heat map’ that shows the strength of the wireless signal at
>>> various distances from each individual radio. But even these heat maps
>>> won’t tell the full story. WISPs are sometimes able to find ways to serve
>>> customers that are not within easy reach of a tower. But just like with
>>> cellphone coverage, there are usually plenty of dead zones around a radio
>>> that can’t be reached but that will still be claimed on a heat map - heat
>>> maps are nothing more than a rough approximation of actual coverage. It’s
>>> hard to imagine that wireless coverage areas will ever be fully accurate.
>>> DSL coverage over telephone copper is equally impossible to map
>>> correctly, and there are still places where DSL is claimed but which can't
>>> be served.
>>> Broadband speeds are even harder to challenge. Under the FCC mapping
>>> rules, ISPs are allowed to claim marketing speeds. If an ISP markets
>>> broadband as capable of 100/20 Mbps, they can claim that speed on the
>>> broadband map. It doesn’t matter if the actual broadband delivered is only
>>> a fraction of that speed. There are so many factors that affect broadband
>>> speeds that the maps will never accurately depict the speeds folks can
>>> really buy. It’s amazingly disingenuous for the FCC to say the maps are
>>> accurate. The best we could ever hope for is that the maps will be better
>>> if, and only if ISPs scrupulously follow the reporting rules – but nobody
>>> thinks that is going to happen.
>>> I understand the frustration of the Senators who are suggesting this
>>> legislation. But I also think that we’ll never get an accurate set of maps.
>>> Don’t forget that Congress created the requirement to use the maps to
>>> allocate the BEAD grant dollars. Grant funding could have been done in
>>> other ways that didn't relay on the maps. I don’t think it’s going to make
>>> much difference if we delay six months, a year, or four years – the maps
>>> are going to remain consistently inconsistent.
>>> Comment
>>> <https://public-api.wordpress.com/bar/?stat=groovemails-events&bin=wpcom_email_click&redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fpotsandpansbyccg.com%2F2023%2F04%2F10%2Fmore-mapping-drama%2F%23respond&sr=0&signature=63622e30b19e5102ef36fc44d8991694&blog_id=49312101&user=97642389&_e=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&_z=z>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> Unsubscribe
>>> <https://public-api.wordpress.com/bar/?stat=groovemails-events&bin=wpcom_email_click&redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fsubscribe.wordpress.com%2F%3Fkey%3D072a4d29f08e67194742d6198f66a154%26email%3Ddave.taht%2540gmail.com%26b%3Dzz3dKN5jFAz9oh_kGyVmZMM9VuMfe-KFVpUmvU-xub5GNISK4rkZNDuRaPYQ525QyPJbx_BwX9FobsZ931FdywBhavo98TJMvgatGz_xd-P9274-5jbtvj7z4lL1Hg2GK_dDW_KYaw%253D%253D&sr=1&signature=33b08507febccbe845154adf820bf435&user=97642389&_e=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&_z=z>
>>> to no longer receive posts from POTs and PANs.
>>> Change your email settings at manage subscriptions.
>>> <https://public-api.wordpress.com/bar/?stat=groovemails-events&bin=wpcom_email_click&redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fwordpress.com%2Ffollowing%2Fmanage%2F%3Fs%3Dpotsandpansbyccg.com&sr=1&signature=fc4380716e15413e58d2859bc13261a8&user=97642389&_e=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&_z=z>
>>> Trouble clicking? Copy and paste this URL into your browser:
>>> https://potsandpansbyccg.com/2023/04/10/more-mapping-drama/
>>> <WordPress.com and Jetpack Logos>
>>> Get the Jetpack app to use Reader anywhere, anytime
>>> Follow your favorite sites, save posts to read later, and get real-time
>>> notifications for likes and comments.
>>> <Download Jetpack on Google Play>
>>> <Download Jetpack from the App Store>
>>> <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1565481562?pt=299112&ct=new-post&mt=8>
>>> <WordPress.com on Twitter>
>>> <https://twitter.com/wordpressdotcom>
>>> <WordPress.com on Facebook>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/WordPresscom>
>>> <WordPress.com on Instagram>
>>> <https://www.instagram.com/wordpressdotcom/>
>>> <WordPress.com on YouTube>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/c/WordPressdotcom>
>>> [image: WordPress.com Logo and Wordmark title=]
>>> <https://public-api.wordpress.com/bar/?stat=groovemails-events&bin=wpcom_email_click&redirect_to=https%3A%2F%2Fwordpress.com&sr=1&signature=7e34f99b8a8f60a2979293df01c62e5d&user=97642389&_e=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&_z=z>
>>> Learn how to build your website with our video tutorials on YouTube
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6nDc7ACvovLwH8kNrcVh_-hyx6z94j54>.
>>> Automattic, Inc. - 60 29th St. #343, San Francisco, CA 94110
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/60+29th+St.+%23343,+San+Francisco,+CA+94110?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> --
>>> AMA March 31:
>>> https://www.broadband.io/c/broadband-grant-events/dave-taht
>>> Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
>>> --
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>> Groups "National Broadband Mapping Coalition" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
>>> an email to BBCoalition+unsubscribe at marconisociety.org.
>>> To view this discussion on the web visit
>>> https://groups.google.com/a/marconisociety.org/d/msgid/BBCoalition/CAA93jw7BmWMw-yeovaQsC-sK2Ufdzp3Dnv-hT4hdqBGoOwjFxg%40mail.gmail.com
>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/marconisociety.org/d/msgid/BBCoalition/CAA93jw7BmWMw-yeovaQsC-sK2Ufdzp3Dnv-hT4hdqBGoOwjFxg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>
>>> .
>> --
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "National Broadband Mapping Coalition" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to BBCoalition+unsubscribe at marconisociety.org.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit
>> https://groups.google.com/a/marconisociety.org/d/msgid/BBCoalition/CAAk_8j0vm0Gsj%3DmOP0LLw3C-kUhk8knZaKK-BPXPSB4B8e1vnQ%40mail.gmail.com
>> <https://groups.google.com/a/marconisociety.org/d/msgid/BBCoalition/CAAk_8j0vm0Gsj%3DmOP0LLw3C-kUhk8knZaKK-BPXPSB4B8e1vnQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>
>> .
>> Garland T. McCoy | Co-Founder & Executive Director | PAgCASA (Precision Ag
>> Connectivity & Accuracy Stakeholder Alliance) | www.pagcasa.org
>> <http://www.pagcasa.org>  | garland.mccoy at pagcasa.org
>> <mailto:garland.mccoy at pagcasa.org> | Adjunct Professor,
>> Syracuse University
>> iSchool | gmccoy at syr.edu <mailto:gmccoy at syr.edu>  | 202-906-0654
> --
> AMA March 31: https://www.broadband.io/c/broadband-grant-events/dave-taht
> Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
> _______________________________________________
> LibreQoS mailing list
> LibreQoS at lists.bufferbloat.net
> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/libreqos
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://lists.bufferbloat.net/pipermail/libreqos/attachments/20230412/4a08ce5a/attachment-0001.html>

More information about the LibreQoS mailing list