[LibreQoS] [Bloat] [Rpm] net neutrality back in the news

Livingood, Jason Jason_Livingood at comcast.com
Thu Sep 28 16:54:54 EDT 2023


> From: Bloat <bloat-bounces at lists.bufferbloat.net> on behalf of Jeremy Austin via Bloat <bloat at lists.bufferbloat.net>

> I'm interested in seeing how one can enforce the 'will of the people' -- the application vendors (who are doing everything in their power to prevent ISPs identifying *anything* about the traffic) will certainly not obey such a will, and the ISP can in good faith implement such a prioritization service but have no power to cryptographically authenticate such traffic. This seems a dead end where no one is willing to bear the cost.

Great point! Back in the old days, sure you could use DPI to identify flow X as streaming video, flow Y as web traffic, and flow Z as email. No more - based on 3rd party stats somewhere between 90% - 95% of traffic is encrypted (increasing all the time) -- so no more ability to accurately infer application type and trigger a network response based on that. 

Great doc on the shift to pervasive encryption: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9446.html "Reflections on Ten Years Past the Snowden Revelations"

JL 







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