<div dir="ltr"><div>> That's a lot to play with, so I'm taking my time. My gut likes the A/B switch, currently.</div><div><br></div><div>Take your time, I'm just thrilled to see this working so well so far.</div><div><br></div><div>> I could feel the difference at my desk; fire up a video while a
download was running, and it simply "felt" like it responded better. TCP
RTT times are the best measure of "feel" I've found, so far.</div><div><br></div><div>I've experienced the same when our network switched from LibreQoS using fq_codel to LibreQoS using CAKE. Really hard to quantify it but the "snappiness" or "feel" is noticeable to end-users.</div><div><br></div><div>> We've tended to go with "median" latency as a guide, rather than mean.
Thanks to monitoring things beyond our control, some of the outliers
tend to be <i>really bad</i> - even if the network is fine. There's
literally nothing we can do about a customer trying to work with a
malfunctioning system somewhere (in space, for all I know!)</div><div><br></div><div>True. And it can be sort of helpful for troubleshooting WiFi latency issues and bottlenecks inside the home and such.</div><div><br></div><div>> "monitor only" mode <br></div><div><br></div><div>Perhaps we can use ePPing just for this aspect? Or instead we could use cpumap-pping but with all HTB classes set to high rates (no plan enforcement) and no CAKE leafs.<br></div><div><br></div><div>> How about the idea of "metaverse-ready" metrics, with one table that is preseem-like and another that's<br><div><br></div><div>Good idea. I've now added both a standard (preseem like) table and "metaverse-ready" table of Node (AP) TCP Latency on the InfluxDB template.<br></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 8:21 PM Dave Taht via LibreQoS <<a href="mailto:libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net">libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>How about the idea of "metaverse-ready" metrics, with one table that is preseem-like and another that's<br></div><div><br></div><div>blue = < 8ms</div><div>green = < 20ms</div><div>yellow = < 50ms</div><div>orange = < 70ms</div><div>red = > 70ms</div><div><br></div></div>
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