<div dir="auto">Yes. No way out of this, basically.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Anyway, I still love what Robert is doing: <div><a href="https://jackrabbitwireless.com/performance/">https://jackrabbitwireless.com/performance/</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">He has upgraded Performance explanation on the website and it’s even more on the point.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">My hope is to see more and more small (W)ISPs competing with the big (and in many instances, crony) ISPs with this approach. Thanks to LibreQoS.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 1 May 2023 at 12:48 PM, dan <<a href="mailto:dandenson@gmail.com">dandenson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr">For one, the testing data needs to include more increments. This is capitalism (in theory) so if you want a measure of consumer choice you need.... choices. showing a DSL or an aging wisp or other <=10Mbps service and having a 200-300Mbps docsis offering overbuilt via gov' funds at twice the price is really not choice. <br><br>I hate to say this because I'm typing this on my shiny macbook pro 16 m2.... but this is the apple model. Simply don't make products in the bottom or even medium end of the market and then you dont have to worry about those products cannibalising the higher end products. Why doesn't spectrum/comcast/etc offer a 100x25 service? because it would be 10-15 less than their 200-300 and some not unsubstantial percent of users would choose that because of the price and be very happy with it. And frankly, they WOULD be very happy with it.<br><br>These programs that are about whomever can deliver gigabit first getting the government supported monopoly are the opposite of every merit based selection mechanism in capitalism.<div><br></div><div>There seems to be a presumption that if you can just get 'fiber' to the home that the internet will be great, but that's just not reflected in the ratings and reviews of providers across the gambut. You'll see wisps offering quite low speeds with very high ratings and fttx providers with gig service getting really poor reviews. If one of these low reviewed companies is first to market with that gig (and they are... a lot...their business model is to use government funds to build out...) then the consumer didn't get a choice, there is no competition to give consumers a choice.<br><br>This is basically a giant nanny-state model. The government 'knows better' than the consumer and will pick the technology and the company to deliver it.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 3:51 AM Frantisek Borsik <<a href="mailto:frantisek.borsik@gmail.com" target="_blank">frantisek.borsik@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr">Indeed. I highly doubt that there's any hope in this regard.<div><br></div><div>Anyway, Dan, can You think of any possible incremental improvements that You can come up with, as a layman?</div><div><br></div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>All the best,</div><div><br></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Frank<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Frantisek (Frank) Borsik<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714 <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">iMessage, mobile: +420775230885<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Skype: casioa5302ca<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="mailto:frantisek.borsik@gmail.com" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">frantisek.borsik@gmail.com</a></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 11:47 AM dan <<a href="mailto:dandenson@gmail.com" target="_blank">dandenson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr">I had a long response typed out here but I decided to simplify. This brief does what a lot do. 'trust us, our tests compensate for wifi'. oh yeah? how so? much of the same bad information gathering and false conclusions follow. <div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 3:16 AM Frantisek Borsik via LibreQoS <<a href="mailto:libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net" target="_blank">libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr">And so, how to get from ISP claim to ISP proof? Upscaling anything like this SamKnows' thing with US government from the past?<div><a href="https://samknows.com/blog/mba-retrospective" target="_blank">https://samknows.com/blog/mba-retrospective</a><br><div><br></div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>All the best,</div><div><br></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Frank<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Frantisek (Frank) Borsik<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714 <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">iMessage, mobile: +420775230885<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Skype: casioa5302ca<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"><a href="mailto:frantisek.borsik@gmail.com" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">frantisek.borsik@gmail.com</a></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 12:02 AM Dave Taht via LibreQoS <<a href="mailto:libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net" target="_blank">libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <strong class="gmail_sendername" dir="auto">Thomas Reid</strong> <span dir="auto"><<a href="mailto:Tom@reidconsultinggroup.com" target="_blank">Tom@reidconsultinggroup.com</a>></span><br>Date: Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 11:03 AM<br>Subject: Broadband Accountability Brief<br>To: National Broadband Mapping Coalition <<a href="mailto:bbcoalition@marconisociety.org" target="_blank">bbcoalition@marconisociety.org</a>><br></div><br><br><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thought at least some of you may appreciate the attached brief on achieving accountability in broadband.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Take care,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span>Tom Reid<u></u><u></u></span></b></p>
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