[Make-wifi-fast] make-wifi-fast 3 proposal help?

Dave Taht dave.taht at gmail.com
Sun Jun 2 20:16:56 EDT 2024


As I am doing, also, would be to submit to a grant process from somewhere -
ardc is who I am targeting primarily with my proposal, but nlnet has been a
consistent funder, and (sometimes), comcast. I keep hoping the telecom
infrastructure project gains clue with their openwifi group - but far too
few overall can understand the vision you have. I was hoping that now that
enough people knew that starlink had gone fq_codel that there would be a
rush to implement - but noooooo....

and you want to go waaaay beyond that. I think talking about where you want
to go in front of 802.11 would be a great place to start. I was planning on
attending netdevconf in san jose in mid july, the next 802.11 wg meeting is
in montreal

https://web.cvent.com/event/64f6931c-b20d-44af-a54e-4830fa2f7097/summary


On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 5:11 PM Bob McMahon <bob.mcmahon at broadcom.com> wrote:

> I'm interested in group designing an open API or equivalent over a high
> speed serial/digital interface to drive a remote Wi-Fi lower MAC, digital
> PHY, analog PHY, CMOS radio(s) and front end modules. The upper MAC would
> reside in the fronthaul concentrator and be remote, supporting up to 48 MAC
> lowers. Hopefully scale to maybe to higher.  Basically, Wi-Fi goes point to
> point into the fronthaul concentrator, i.e. following the evolution of
> ethernet switching but without the CAT 5 for the final leash.
>
> The L2TPv3 w/pseudowires used for eCRPI are an analogy. So is DAA of cable
> plant OSP.
>
> Assume the seriali interface speed is  a minimum of 10Gb/s but will go to
> 100Gb/s and then likely to 800b/s.  All at very low power and guiding the
> photons to/from their destinations with last meter wireless.
>
> WiFi control and 802.11 packets would be carried over this interface.
>
> Can't be a NIC/sun workstation model on these remote radio heads requiring
> expensive CPUs and way too much power. This will also isolate WiFi radios
> from  the SoCs and the internal switches, typically found in  todays' APs,
> which is a bit of a Frankenstein design the industry has adopted for some
> unknown reasons.
>
> Bob
>
> On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 4:45 PM Dave Taht via Make-wifi-fast <
> make-wifi-fast at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
>> There is HUGE NSF grant coming available concerning wifi, and I was also
>> thinking that applying to ardc might be an option.
>>
>> Does anyone here still care enough about wifi to want to participate? In
>> my case I would like to gear up mainly to get into and stay
>> in the wifi8 standardization process in the IEEE, although I am surfacing
>> to fix some bugs and try to make improvements in the mt79 chipset which is
>> thus far, pretty amazing. I am really pleased with OpenWrt on this chip, so
>> far. An OpenWrt one should be arriving any day....
>>
>> Anyway, a start at a proposal for ardc is here:
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1x2HBYmSJbMoVMbLzKgkOVSvMnIFZdJQE823Jlg0mfX0/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>>
>> --
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVFWSyMp3xg&t=1098s Waves Podcast
>> Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos
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