<div dir="ltr">OK, back with some further testing.<br>
<br>
Was getting very erratic test results and had been trying to figure that out. Much more consistent now
with most users not active.<br><br>
Its interesting that 2 of the 3 test sets, with all the SQM stuff
disabled, were very good from a bufferbloat perspective, with the
third having lots of excess latency on the upload. Makes me wonder
where the bottleneck is in my case? Or, is DSLReports just not beating things hard enough? <br>
<br>
I also have a mild "burst" effect on the download, and a severe one
on the upload, even though the cable co says "they don't do that
anymore". Currently investigating why that is. What kind of havoc
does this behavior do to the SQM code, or should it be immune to such?<br>
<br>
I always have noticed that during the UL tests, when I get the
10-15mbit burst of speed, that even with the SQM limiting things it
always overshoots the set limit. Is this expected, or indicating
that something's not right?<br>
<br>
Forgive the basic fq-codel/cake bufferbloat questions, am trying to
clear my base platform to have better wifi-airtime test results.<br>
<br>
DSLReport test results:<br>
<br>
50/5mbit Cable modem - 1Gb eth to C7 - 1Gb eth to Win 10 PC (slower
Core 2 & HD machine)<br>
<br>
Early morning testing, little to no activity in the house. Kaspersky
Virus and firewall disabled. HTPPS DSLReports rather than HTTP.<br>
<br>
SQM disabled:<br>
DL speed 65mbits for 10s then ramps down to 53. UL speed peaks over 15mbit for 2s
then drops to 5.5 - 4.5mbit. DL latency is 50-60ms during the 65mbit
time, then drops to the 20ms range during the 53mbit portion. UL, some high (60-180ms) short bursts in the early time,
settling down but with bursts late in the test. Only on the third test is there significant bloating, UL only, for the full duration of the upload test.<br>
<br><a class="gmail-moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/7100313">http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/7100313</a> as above, bloat score
of A<br>
<a class="gmail-moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/7100619">http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/7100619</a> just as good as above
<br>
<a class="gmail-moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/7100714">http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/7100714</a> bloat score of C, DL
good as above, UL bursts to 1000 and 1400ms, 300-400ms average.<br>
<br>
With SQM enabled: Note that UL
"overspeed" bump is not contained by the SQM limit.<br>
<br>UL/DL speed setting 55000/5000kbit/s<br>
<a class="gmail-moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/7101220">http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/7101220</a> looking rather good
score A, low overall, 20's and peaks to 50's<br>
<a class="gmail-moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/7101458">http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/7101458</a> same<br>
<a class="gmail-moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/7101518">http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/7101518</a> same<br>
<br>
UL/DL speed setting 45000/4500kbit/s<br>
<a class="gmail-moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/7099753">http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/7099753</a> bloat score A, just a
few latency spikes<br>
<a class="gmail-moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/7099984">http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/7099984</a> same as above, a bit
more latency on UL<br>
<a class="gmail-moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/7100094">http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/7100094</a> same as above, with
avg in the 20's and peaks in the 50's ms range<br>
<br>
UL/DL speed setting 45000/4000kbit/s<br>
<a class="gmail-moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/7100974">http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/7100974</a> same as above SQM
settings, a bit lower on the latency?<br>
<a class="gmail-moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/7101045">http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/7101045</a><br>
<a class="gmail-moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/7101104">http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/7101104</a><br>
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1. Re: Updated LEDE build with airtime patches (Noah Causin)<br>
<br><br>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: Noah Causin <<a href="mailto:n0manletter@gmail.com">n0manletter@gmail.com</a>><br>To: <a href="mailto:make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net">make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net</a><br>Cc: <br>Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2016 11:33:22 -0500<br>Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Updated LEDE build with airtime patches<br>
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
<p>Maybe your ISP gives you a burst of bandwidth and then takes it
away shortly after. Comcast was known for doing this with their
Powerboost.</p>
<p>Try these settings:<br>
</p>
<p>Download: 42500</p>
<p>Upload: 4000</p>
<br>
<div class="m_7521061397763635681moz-cite-prefix">On 12/4/2016 5:11 AM, Jon Pike wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<div>Here's some straight eth to router test runs.<br>
<br>
</div>
Wierdly, I'm getting worse performance on ethernet, than 15
minutes ago over the wifi link. This computer is older and
slower though, and with a HD rather than a SSD. <br>
<br>
UL speed is slower overall, in the first two of the three
tests, with many more high latency events on the bloat graph
occuring on both the DL and the UL. Last one was cleaner and
faster, though with a few large excursions.<br>
<br>
C7 gbit eth - gbit PC eth <br>
<br>
Somewhat slower Win 10 PC than the USB adapter platform.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6881431" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/<wbr>speedtest/6881431</a>
slow UL speeds, many high latency events, bloat score B<br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6881473" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/<wbr>speedtest/6881473</a> <wbr>
" "<br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6881491" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/<wbr>speedtest/6881491</a>
better than the first two, both in UL speed and low latency<br>
<br>
</div>
Hope this is helpful...<br>
<div><br>
<div>
<div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 1:39 AM,
Jon Pike <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jonpike54@gmail.com" target="_blank">jonpike54@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">
<div>Did a new set on the same PC located on the
other side of the house. Will also add the
requested ethernet attached PC runs later. Just
discovered that you can click on the bufferbloat
graph items on the DSLReports Speedtest results,
and they actually expand into a detailed picture
vs time graph. Never knew about that!<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>I disabled my virus scanner (Kaspersky) for
the first time. Don't know if the smoother and
faster results are more due to that, vs maybe
it's pretty quiet on the home network front
right now...<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>One thing I've been wondering about, is the
speed setting in the SQM, i.e. the 55mbit/5mbit
in my case. Is it supposed to cap the data
rates below the setting? If so, why am I still
getting my upload speed surge of 10 or more
mbit, even with it set to 5? <br>
</div>
<div><br>
<br>
New set of tests on the C7, Toke's 11-24 build.
<br>
Same cake and piece of cake SQM as before,
Noah's suggestion of removing the extra SQM
settings has been done. <br>
SQM cap speeds: 55/5mbit<br>
Other new change, virus scanner disabled.<br>
<br>
Very smooth, near perfect speeds, only a very
few high latency spikes. No neighboring PC
running videos, or gaming, like there was in
earlier tests. Maybe the upstairs roommate also
wasn't as busy as well?<br>
<br>
2.4Ghz AC adapter - Netgear A6200 AC1200<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880534" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/spee<wbr>dtest/6880534</a><br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880607" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/spee<wbr>dtest/6880607</a><br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880642" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/spee<wbr>dtest/6880642</a><br>
<br>
5Ghz AC adapter - Netgear A6200 AC1200<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880694" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/spee<wbr>dtest/6880694</a><br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880747" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/spee<wbr>dtest/6880747</a><br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880827" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/spee<wbr>dtest/6880827</a><br>
<br>
2.4Ghz N adapter - Netgear WNA3100 N300<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880915" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/spee<wbr>dtest/6880915</a><br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880950" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/spee<wbr>dtest/6880950</a><br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6880968" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/spee<wbr>dtest/6880968</a><br>
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Cc: <br>
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 13:41:11 -0500<br>
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast] Updated LEDE
build with airtime patches<br>
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<p>Are you using the dual-dsthost and
dual-srchost options? If so, try
removing those settings from SQM and
uncheck all the checkboxes you selected
to reach them.</p>
<p>Then try a test on Ethernet with SQM
on.<br>
</p>
<p>Noah<br>
</p>
<div>
<div class="m_7521061397763635681gmail-h5"> <br>
<div class="m_7521061397763635681gmail-m_7612684608376287992gmail-m_-2088078387980054590moz-cite-prefix">On
12/2/2016 1:14 PM, Jon Pike wrote:<br>
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</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<div class="m_7521061397763635681gmail-h5">
<div dir="ltr">
<div>Hello all... <br>
<br>
</div>
<div>Well, with medical issues,
and having a busy week, I
didn't get back right away.
Here's the DSLReports Speedtest
runs I took.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>My results here are pretty
variable, so I don't know how
trustworthy they are or how
worth while to you guys, vs
FLENT runs. <br>
</div>
<div>The lower block is using
Toke's 11-18 C7 FW build, the
upper block is with the 11-24
build.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>Upshot, on my Archer C7,
both ran for days with no
apparent issues, on my home
network. Interesting note, I
ran both the C7 v2 and the C7
v3, both ran fine. So, if you
end up with a v3, it shouldn't
be an issue. Further side
note, the different
configuration of the v3 model,
with both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz on the
external "rabbit ears" antennas,
seems to have a bit stronger
signal on 2.4Ghz on the other
end of my house, than the v2
model that has 3 separate, small
2.4Ghz antennas inside the box.
Caveat, my testing of that
wasn't very thourough..<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>My overall home network setup
is: Cox cable - SB6146 modem -
Archer C7 router - various
clients. I did testing on a PC
plugged directely in a eth port
of the C7, to PC's using
Netgear Netgear WNA3100 N300,
and A6200 AC1200 USB adapters.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Below are the links to
DSLReports, on the tests. Most
have cake, and piece of cake,
and Noah's suggested settings,
with speed caps of 55 and 5
mbit. My cable is supposed to
be 60/6, I see 65 often, with
wild speed variation on the UL,
settling to 5-6mbits.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>I have the Speedtest settings
set for hi res bufferbloat,
test time extended to 20sec,
which is about as long as you
can go without pushing the start
of the test off the end of that
graph.<br>
<br>
</div>
<div>Let me know if this is in any
way useful, or what I can do to
make it more worth looking at.
It seems so variable and random,
that I wonder about the worth,
as well as you don't get a good
look at what the latencey is
over time, vs FLENT.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
------------------------------<wbr>-------------<br>
eth0 to router - no SQM<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6656688" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/spee<wbr>dtest/6656688</a>
Starts near 60, plateau 64-65
(hits 66) then drops to 52-54 at
the 10sec mark. UL hits 18,
before falling down to a 4.5-5.5
average Bloat C<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6657058" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/spee<wbr>dtest/6657058</a>
very similar, but bloat an A
this time<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6657916" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/spee<wbr>dtest/6657916</a>
" Bloat a C this time<br>
<br>
<br>
now C7 V2, with Toke 11-24 FW
SQM 55/5<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6659367" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/spee<wbr>dtest/6659367</a>
51.2 1.65, bloat B<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6659493" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/spee<wbr>dtest/6659493</a>
52.4 3.01 bloat A peak of
300-400ms on all including
idle?<br>
<br>
------------------------------<wbr>--<br>
</div>
Earlier tests with Toke's 11-18
FW, SQM 55/5 mbits<br>
<div><br>
2.4Ghz N adapter Netgear
WNA3100 N300 adapter<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440808" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/spee<wbr>dtest/6440808</a><br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440846" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/spee<wbr>dtest/6440846</a><br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440864" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/spee<wbr>dtest/6440864</a><br>
<br>
<br>
2.4Ghz AC adapter Netgear A6200
AC1200 adapter<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440940" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/spee<wbr>dtest/6440940</a><br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440963" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/spee<wbr>dtest/6440963</a><br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6440987" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/spee<wbr>dtest/6440987</a><br>
<br>
5Ghz AC adapter Netgear A6200
AC1200 adapter<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441015" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/spee<wbr>dtest/6441015</a><br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441038" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/spee<wbr>dtest/6441038</a><br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441056" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/spee<wbr>dtest/6441056</a><br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441132" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/spee<wbr>dtest/6441132</a>
(first A grade of the batch)<br>
<br>
eth1 to C7<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441483" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/spee<wbr>dtest/6441483</a><br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441570" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/spee<wbr>dtest/6441570</a><br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest/6441586" target="_blank">http://www.dslreports.com/spee<wbr>dtest/6441586</a><br>
<br>
<br>
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From: Jon Pike <<a href="mailto:jonpike54@gmail.com" target="_blank">jonpike54@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen"
<<a href="mailto:toke@toke.dk" target="_blank">toke@toke.dk</a>><br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net" target="_blank">make-wifi-fast@lists.buffe<wbr>rbloat.net</a><br>
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 21:58:46
-0800<br>
Subject: Re: [Make-wifi-fast]
Updated LEDE build with airtime
patches<br>
<p dir="ltr">Wish I wasn't out
of town still... I could have
got some time with the new
one. Had been running the
11-18 build version of yours,
on a C7 v2 in my mixed home
network enviroment. N
devices, AC devices, a semi
rogue N range extender, all
running WPA2-AES.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I did see some
occasional large amounts of
bloat, most of the time good
behavior. Occasional odd,
regular thru put drops to 1/4
speed. I mentioned this in
earlier posts, have done some
more detailed testing since,
that's at home and
unavailable till I'm home
again. You could see a few
DSLReports logs in my posts.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Hope that helps...</p>
<br>
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