<div dir="ltr">How is round trips per minute a one way delay measurement? I'm confused by this.<br><br>Bob </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 1:32 PM Dave Taht <<a href="mailto:dave.taht@gmail.com">dave.taht@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 1:09 PM Bob McMahon via Make-wifi-fast<br>
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> hmm, I think measuring bufferbloat and calling it latency seems like a mistake. Sure, they're both units of delay, i.e. time, but they really are different engineering (and some physics) related phenomena.<br>
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Apple has announced their new "RPM" metric, round trips per minute,<br>
and incorporated it into osx and ios on the "responsiveness" option in<br>
developer settings.<br>
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> Bob<br>
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> On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 12:13 PM Tim Higgins via Make-wifi-fast <<a href="mailto:make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net" target="_blank">make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> I'm not planning on testing that particular router. But my new benchmark suite includes round-trip latency tests using ping simultaneous with running TCP/IP traffic full blast.<br>
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>> This Chart shows 5 GHz latency for all the Wi-Fi 6 routers tested so far.<br>
>> <a href="https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/tools/charts/wifi-router/bar/247-mb_latency_score_up_avg/44?see=P_B" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/tools/charts/wifi-router/bar/247-mb_latency_score_up_avg/44?see=P_B</a><br>
>> The results are a "Score" instead of latency due to the way the Ranker works.<br>
>> Conversion to latency (ms) = 1/(score/1000). So the NETGEAR RAX80 latency is ~ 6 ms.<br>
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>> On 6/14/2021 2:24 PM, Jon Pike wrote:<br>
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>> Any way to validate that? Or, is Tim already working on a test article? ;-)<br>
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