[NNagain] Net neutrality and Bufferbloat?

Ronan Pigott ronan at rjp.ie
Mon Dec 11 18:55:24 EST 2023


Hi,

I read the recent NOI response and it sparked my interest in the relationship
between Net Neutrality and bufferbloat. I also found [1] which makes it seem
Net Neutrality is an obstacle to solving bufferbloat in the US, at least. I'm
just curious about the legal obstacles to bufferbloat solutions in the US. I
tried reading the FCC rules which I understand changed in 2010, 2014, and 2017
but theye're kinda vague I think and I am no lawyer nor industry veteran and
don't think I really understand the implications.

In particular, [1] claims:

> Misapplied concepts of network neutrality is one of the things that killed
> fq codel for DOCSIS 3.1

Does anyone know more about this?

When looking around, I found more similar claims [2]:

> Finally, some jurisdictions impose regulations that limit the ability of
> networks to provide differentiation of services, in large part this seems to
> be based on the belief that doing so necessarily involves prioritization or
> privileged access to bandwidth, and thus a benefit to one class of traffic
> always comes at the expense of another.

Anyone know what regulations the authors mean here?

I personally run openwrt+sqm/cake in my home router and have found it to be
effective, so I am convinced of the value of sqm. Is Net Neutrality regulation
an obstacle to wider deployment?

[1] https://blog.cerowrt.org/post/net_neutrality_customers/
[2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tsvwg-nqb/

Thanks,

Ronan


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