[NNagain] On "Throttling" behaviors

Sebastian Moeller moeller0 at gmx.de
Tue Oct 3 10:41:27 EDT 2023


Hi Karl,


> On Oct 3, 2023, at 10:10, Karl Auerbach via Nnagain <nnagain at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
> 
> Extremely minor comment:
> 
> I see the phrase "access to the Internet" being used.  That rubs me the wrong way because nearly everything we do on the net is "access *across* the Internet".  The difference may seem subtle; but to me it is important because the former phrase tends to make me overlook that from a user point of view, what matters is the full-path, the full end-to-end experience.

	[SM] Indeed, I agree that end-users are interested in the full path, so across the internet. The ISP however that I pay for internet access services can hardly be held responsible for the full path, as that ISP can only affect how he/she connects end-users like me to their own internal network and how their own network is connected to upstream or equal partners. For example if I buy a 100M internet access link from my ISP and try to download from a server connected to another AS with only 10 Mbps, I could hardly fault my ISP for that? In comparison if the bottleneck to that server is caused by some discrimination in my ISPs network I can go talk to my ISP about the rationale behind that.

Regards
	Sebastian


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>         --karl--
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