[NNagain] Brendan Carr: "Six years ago, Americans lived through one of the greatest hoaxes in regulatory history...

[Frantisek Borsik]

Indeed, Jason. Bufferbloat is still here and most of the people outside of
our little bubble even doesn't know the word itself.

My anecdotal evidence says that many people working in Wi-Fi, WLAN or
similar field still never heard even the term bufferbloat:

Been to https://www.thewlpc.com/conferences/prague-czech-republic-2023 this
week, there was ~200 guys that install, manage or survey Wi-Fi networks on
stadiums, hotels, campuses, universities and other venues, and there was NO
mention of bufferbloat at all, and the mentions of the words like latency
and jitter could be counted on 2 hands.

I have tried to ask about it every vendor there (e.g. Ruckus, Extreme
Networks...) and their product or engineering guys said they never heard of
it. Some of the guys in the attendance suggested that "it's just the ISP
thing, you know, for the ISP customers at home." Sad story.


All the best,

Frank

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On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 3:19 PM Livingood, Jason via Nnagain <
nnagain at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> On 10/24/23, 15:22, "Nnagain on behalf of Dave Taht via Nnagain" <
> nnagain-bounces at lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:
> nnagain-bounces at lists.bufferbloat.net> on behalf of
> nnagain at lists.bufferbloat.net <mailto:nnagain at lists.bufferbloat.net>>
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> > I do wish that he showed upload speeds, and latency under load,
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> Upstream usage in the US in 2020 increased 30% - 60% (
> https://www.bitag.org/documents/bitag_report.pdf). Then it reverted to a
> normal CAGR.
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> Also here are two charts of LUL changes across much of the US since 2021
> FWIW (don’t have data before that, this is from the SamKnows system – which
> is pretty good). I don’t know how else to conclude that while there have
> been improvements, buffer bloat is still pretty atrocious on a national
> level.
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