[NNagain] nn back in the news

Dave Cohen craetdave at gmail.com
Thu Aug 15 10:36:12 EDT 2024


I wish I shared that forward optimism, but in my experience "network
cluefulness" is not abundant even among otherwise technically forward
individuals, and "ISP network cluefulness" even less so (FWIW, I believe
this applies to employees at ISPs as well). I'm also inclined to believe
that most of the "smart regulation is better than no regulation" folks are
also generally "regulation suggested/desired by those who stand to profit
is bad regulation" folks, which makes real progress challenging when
subject matter expertise almost exclusively resides with those in the
industry.

On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 10:17 AM Dave Taht via Nnagain <
nnagain at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> Perhaps it would have been better to say that "one of the sites I read
> regularly just put out an update on it." :)
>
> I like to think that bufferbloat.net's NOI filing did a bit of good,
> getting cited 16 times, but not changing the top level conclusions one
> iota. Doing another one this year is on my mind in followup, but aside from
> harping on our latency points, pointing to progress, and the need for more
> IXPs, I don't know what top level items could be addressed, again? I'd have
> to buckle down and re-read what resonated, and what didn't.
>
> Perhaps something might come out of the DNC?
>
> I have been enjoying Carr's negative posts on BEAD, but there must be some
> bright news in that program somewhere by now?
>
> I am perhaps reading too much into it, but with a potentially younger
> crowd moving into office, perhaps more technical clue is arriving? I'm very
> happy to see mudge make CIO at darpa. The white house got a cto yet? The
> FCC?
>
> PS  Ms Shotwell did a great fireside chat at Mountain Connect:
> https://www.broadband.io/c/broadband-community-events/shotwell
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2024 at 6:27 AM Livingood, Jason <
> jason_livingood at comcast.com> wrote:
>
>> I would say it is not “back” in the news – it has continuously been in
>> the news since the Loper Bright SCOTUS ruling that impacts “Chevron
>> deference” as well the major questions doctrine issue raised in W VA vs
>> EPA. As many people have long said, this will be tied up in the courts for
>> several years.
>>
>> Personal take – in the long-term it will be better to have legislation
>> that codifies this (as well as a national cross-sector privacy law).
>>
>>
>>
>> JL
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Nnagain <nnagain-bounces at lists.bufferbloat.net> on behalf of
>> Dave Taht via Nnagain <nnagain at lists.bufferbloat.net>
>> *Reply-To: *Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects
>> heard this time! <nnagain at lists.bufferbloat.net>
>> *Date: *Thursday, August 15, 2024 at 07:41
>> *To: *Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard
>> this time! <nnagain at lists.bufferbloat.net>
>> *Cc: *Dave Taht <dave.taht at gmail.com>
>> *Subject: *[NNagain] nn back in the news
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/08/isps-ask-supreme-court-to-kill-new-york-law-that-requires-15-broadband-plans/
>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/08/isps-ask-supreme-court-to-kill-new-york-law-that-requires-15-broadband-plans/__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!FPiUKVoVIIjDuEAjFeVX-ISnAeSb8gI7-H-8Pg5UvZVEuC6YaYS0X8k4cHM4F-i7JjIAMB_2uKpV5QLmf8MbXIx1fORtlGxN$>
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>> Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos
>>
>
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