[NNagain] public service website slowness

[David Bray, PhD]

Oh, that's done and is usually standard practice - the challenge is our
Congress separates the authorization to do something from the appropriation
to do something.

So Congress can legitimately say they authorized a plan to have all these
things in place.

And then separately when the appropriations process happens - well that's a
different Committee. And separate from the authorization process.

... There also are unfunded mandates. Congress passes a law requiring a
Department or Agency to do something.

But the passed law is then not funded or only poorly funded. However the
Department or Agency still has to do the work. Yes, the head of the
Department or Agency can go raise their concerns for yet another unfunded
(or inadequately funded) effort - however remember Congress approves the
political heads and so raise too many concerns and you mind find yourself
out of a job...

I'm not saying we should be a Parliamentary-like system, however it is
worth noting that in our country, both at state and federal levels, those
who pass the law are intentionally distinct from those who have to carry
through on what is done...

Good video on how Congress likes the situation where they tell the
President/Executive Branch broadly what to do (and not do) by law, yet also
absolve themselves from having to pass a correspondingly logical budget for
those prescribed activities: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIbkoop4AYE



On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 10:48 AM Steve Crocker <steve at shinkuro.com> wrote:

> Time: Many years ago
> Place: Living room
> Actors: My grandfather, my father, me
>
> My grandfather, observing that I was about to turn 16, generously offered
> to provide funds to buy me a used car.
> My father quickly interceded.  "Not so fast."  "What about gas,
> maintenance, etc?"
> The discussion continued, reaching a decision that I should take a
> part time job.
>
> ======================================
>
> Why not address this problem head on?  Do not present plans to Congress
> for upgrades, new capabilities, etc. unless the plan includes
> appropriate funding for maintenance and upgrades.
>
> Steve
>
> SceneLiving room discussion
>
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 10:41 AM David Bray, PhD via Nnagain <
> nnagain at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>
>> Part of the challenge is that several government websites usually only
>> have a budget allocated to launch them - and then they collect dust (the
>> O&M long-tail). So the lament is that a website that was made 18-25 years
>> ago is slow to load nowadays (keeping in mind that client-side javascript
>> wasn't really an option back then either).
>>
>> A much bigger problem is making sure legislators when they appropriate
>> funds for a project that is intended to continue for multiple decades -
>> those appropriators need to also include in that budget continuous
>> refreshes to both the web UI/UX as well as the security posture. That's the
>> other side of the issue, when legacy technology isn't funded IT security
>> postures get progressively worse as sites get more and more out of date.
>>
>> Meanwhile we also need to encourage ways for continuous updates to both
>> the UI/UX and the security to be done that aren't captured by incumbents
>> who use this knowledge of the ins and outs of both the technology systems
>> and associated human systems to charge inflated prices to keep things
>> updated too?
>>
>> ... and this isn't only for government organizations.
>>
>> Ask Delta about their IT infrastructure and how when
>> Crowdstrike/Microsoft Cloud hiccupped, how that created a ripple effect for
>> them and their UI/UX too. O&M tied to legacy IT does have substantial
>> impacts.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 12:03 AM Dick Roy via Nnagain <
>> nnagain at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Speed is not the problem … it’s how information to be transmitted is
>>> encoded and more importantly, how much redundant info is being sent.  It’s
>>> the MS mindset … give me a faster processor and more memory and I’ll give
>>> you more bloated code to fill it up! When you put kindergarteners in
>>> charge, you get a kindergarten solution! JJJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> *Subject:* [NNagain] public service website slowness
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>>>
>>>
>>> This was a damning analysis of many government websites' speed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://infrequently.org/2024/08/object-lesson/#the-golden-wait
>>>
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