[NNagain] an eloquent critique of NASA

[Vint Cerf]

sounds like a sunk cost argument.

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On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 9:58 AM Robert McMahon via Nnagain <
nnagain at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

> The hard part is life support systems and not so much the rockets. Musk
> handwaves and claims life support is easy, both on Mars and in the
> spacecraft t/fro. The song reveals it's not so easy to keep humans healthy
> and well, even on this earth where humans evolved to survive.
>
> Musk constantly fails in his claims. His cult like following demonstrates
> Festinger's When Phrophecy Fails. Failed prophecy which, counter to
> intuition, strengthens the cult's belief in their leader. It's an illness
> and not something to promote by my judgment. I think us selecting leaders
> and peers that work from a basis of reality is they way to improve things.
> See the world as it is.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Prophecy_Fails
>
> " the team had seen that in some cases the failure of a prophecy, rather
> than causing a rejection of the original belief system, could lead
> believers to increase their personal commitment, and also increase their
> efforts to recruit others into the belief"
>
>
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> On Sun, Oct 6, 2024, 6:14 PM Dave Taht <dave.taht at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2024 at 10:46 AM Robert McMahon <rjmcmahon at rjmcmahon.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> SpaceX is no better than NASA by my opinion. A proper critique was done
>>> in 1970 and still applies today. See link. I grew up in Houston & with
>>> astronauts & their kids because LBJ was from Texas. Seen space projects my
>>> entire life. Focus should be on our planet and robots on the others. The
>>> ego centric view of manned space flight is an illness by my opinion.
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/wtSSP8FVUGY?feature=shared
>>>
>>
>> Hey, thx. I had heard of, but not heard, that poem before.
>>
>> As a counter, for the inspiring need for humans in space: try:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD1ixTr4JWY&t=50s
>>
>> Otherwise I do generally prefer robotic exploration. Building and flying
>> modernized versions of this would be fun:
>> https://dartslab.jpl.nasa.gov/References/pdf/2019-mars-heli.pdf
>>
>> hopefully tomorrow Hera launches!
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>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 3, 2024, 7:03 PM Dave Taht via Nnagain <
>>> nnagain at lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
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>>>> https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com/2024/10/02/sls-is-still-a-national-disgrace/
>>>>
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