<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000'><span style="font-size: 13.3333px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">I've seen some attempts to put an IX at every corner, but I don't think those efforts will be overly successful.</span><br style="font-size: 13.3333px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br style="font-size: 13.3333px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span style="font-size: 13.3333px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">It's still difficult to gain sufficient scale in NFL-sized cities. Big content won't join without big eyeballs (well, not the national-level guys because they almost never will). Big eyeballs just can't be bothered. Small guys don't move the needle enough.</span><div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 13.3333px;"><br></span><br><hr id="zwchr" style="font-size: 10pt;"><div style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;"><b>From: </b>"Dave Taht via Nnagain" <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net><br><b>To: </b>"Network Neutrality is back! Let´s make the technical aspects heard this time!" <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net>, "libreqos" <libreqos@lists.bufferbloat.net>, "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org><br><b>Cc: </b>"Dave Taht" <dave.taht@gmail.com><br><b>Sent: </b>Saturday, October 14, 2023 6:01:54 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>[NNagain] transit and peering costs projections<br><br>This set of trendlines was very interesting. Unfortunately the data<br>stops in 2015. Does anyone have more recent data?<br><br>https://drpeering.net/white-papers/Internet-Transit-Pricing-Historical-And-Projected.php<br><br>I believe a gbit circuit that an ISP can resell still runs at about<br>$900 - $1.4k (?) in the usa? How about elsewhere?<br><br>...<br><br>I am under the impression that many IXPs remain very successful,<br>states without them suffer, and I also find the concept of doing micro<br>IXPs at the city level, appealing, and now achievable with cheap gear.<br>Finer grained cross connects between telco and ISP and IXP would lower<br>latencies across town quite hugely...<br><br>PS I hear ARIN is planning on dropping the price for, and bundling 3<br>BGP AS numbers at a time, as of the end of this year, also.<br><br><br><br>-- <br>Oct 30: https://netdevconf.info/0x17/news/the-maestro-and-the-music-bof.html<br>Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos<br>_______________________________________________<br>Nnagain mailing list<br>Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net<br>https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain<br></div><br></div></div></body></html>