<div dir="ltr">Loon's ten years with backing from we don't know where doesn't compare well with Sherwin's 50 years of constant success, billion dollar receipts nearly all plowed back into the business with no expense spared for taking proper care of the employees.<div><br></div><div>For me, the comparison ends with Loon basically cheating on those patents you spoke of.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 1:57 PM Dave Taht via Nnagain <<a href="mailto:nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net">nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 12:11 AM le berger des photons via Nnagain<br>
<<a href="mailto:nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net" target="_blank">nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> here is the best idea I've ever run into regarding getting artificial network connectivity (as opposed to the inborn network we have and have been programmed to ignore or had our pinneal glands poisoned) out to everybody regardless of how few or many neighbors they have:<br>
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> <a href="https://patents.justia.com/inventor/sherwin-i-seligsohn" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://patents.justia.com/inventor/sherwin-i-seligsohn</a><br>
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The patents above have mostly expired, as has the fella who did them.<br>
He woul have been interesting to talk to.<br>
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> this went nowhere because the New World ODOR didn't want it to, as it was only good for all of us and none of them.<br>
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The x loon project tried to bring suborbital internet via balloon.<br>
Great post-mortum here:<br>
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<a href="https://storage.googleapis.com/x-prod.appspot.com/files/The%20Loon%20Library.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://storage.googleapis.com/x-prod.appspot.com/files/The%20Loon%20Library.pdf</a><br>
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> On Sun, Oct 15, 2023 at 7:37 PM Dave Taht via Nnagain <<a href="mailto:nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net" target="_blank">nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> Since texas has been a focus, here is that broadband office, and many others.<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://broadband.money/state-broadband-offices/texas" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://broadband.money/state-broadband-offices/texas</a><br>
>> director: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/grconte/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/grconte/</a><br>
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>> I started this list in the hope that we could constructively engage<br>
>> across professions, and try to propose ideas that made sense for<br>
>> genuinely improving the internet. As of today... Many more (u)IXPs<br>
>> seem like a huge win for humanity in general, and yet are seemingly<br>
>> absent from the national agenda. So... ring up your broadband office,<br>
>> use your linkedin, have a meeting, ask 'em to join this list for<br>
>> constructive discussions?<br>
>><br>
>> The website above (<a href="http://broadband.io" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">broadband.io</a>) has mostly been involved with BEAD,<br>
>> but now as it is moving into more deployment phase. It has often been<br>
>> not fun seeing the earnest young faces on the friday AMAs there, (I<br>
>> did one) also trying to do the right things for our internet, through<br>
>> a sea of lobbyists and incomplete technical information.<br>
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