<div dir="auto">Isn’t the rubric that any so called “smart” device really means you can just replace the words “hackable” for the word smart? </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Shouldn’t we be concerned about ransomware hitting farmers who are focused on farming vs. cybersecurity? </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Or - the data exhaust from their farming activities being sold to the highest bidder for hedge fund and other financial plays pre-market regarding crop futures? </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Oh, and happy Monday all. :-)</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 07:45 Dave Taht via Nnagain <<a href="mailto:nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net">nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">(I am hoping others on this list with real-world AG experience can<br>
chime in? I enjoy realworld stories about present solutions and pain<br>
points[2])<br>
<br>
I have often been dubious of the 5g hope to dominate any major<br>
component of a smart ag architecture except perhaps FWA, (where<br>
starlink is poised and people also want to run fiber) to give it a<br>
good run for the money- 5g chips are too big, too hard to power, and<br>
too complex, and come with a monthly billing model and other<br>
centralized requirements that make organic evolution and solid support<br>
in remote environments dicy and expensive.<br>
<br>
I freely concede that I may be wrong, that with sufficient subsidies,<br>
we will end up hanging the equivalent of a cellphone off of every<br>
suitably large piece of gear and ship all the data up to the cloud,<br>
rather than pre-process locally. Certainly the benefits of gps and<br>
drones are being shown every day, along with satellite weather and<br>
other forms of satellite analysis. [1]<br>
<br>
But the 5g sensor market? No. Nowadays smart sensors are easily<br>
constructed out of wifi devices such as these which cost 5 dollars or<br>
less:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/DORHEA-Development-Microcontroller-NodeMCU-32S-ESP-WROOM-32/dp/B086MJGFVV/ref=asc_df_B086MJGFVV/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/DORHEA-Development-Microcontroller-NodeMCU-32S-ESP-WROOM-32/dp/B086MJGFVV/ref=asc_df_B086MJGFVV/</a><br>
<br>
And the more meshy LoRA stuff now has much better range (4 miles), at<br>
low complexity and power also.<br>
<br>
then there are things like amazon sidewalk:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Sidewalk/b?ie=UTF8&node=21328123011" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Sidewalk/b?ie=UTF8&node=21328123011</a><br>
<br>
And airtags.<br>
<br>
[1] On the other hand rigorous analysis of the food we produce has<br>
recently discovered a marked decline in the percentage of nutritious<br>
minerals over the past 100 years. Please see:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09637486.2021.1981831" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09637486.2021.1981831</a><br>
<br>
How smart is that?<br>
<br>
[2] Massive subsidy and diversion of river resources to the water<br>
hungry california almond industry during the last 7 years of drought<br>
led to the cancellation of the salmon fishing season last year.<br>
<br>
You should hear some of the invective that I used to hear aimed at<br>
"the f-ing vegetarians" along the docks I frequent in half moon bay.<br>
That I used to hear, anyway, The docks are eerily silent, the workers<br>
at other jobs, the boats not going out for anything except crab and<br>
squid.<br>
<br>
How smart is that? The California water table is a disaster, too. I<br>
vastly prefer salmon to almonds personally....<br>
<br>
I guess a meta point is easily gathering tactical data is one thing,<br>
sharing it sanely another, deciding on how to use it strategically,<br>
another.<br>
<br>
-- <br>
:( My old R&D campus is up for sale: <a href="https://tinyurl.com/yurtlab" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tinyurl.com/yurtlab</a><br>
Dave Täht CSO, LibreQos<br>
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