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    If video conferencing worked well enough, they would not have to all
    get together in one place and would instead hold IETF meetings
    online ...?<br>
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    Did anyone measure latency?   Does anyone measure throughput of
    "useful" traffic - e.g., excluding video/audio data that didn't
    arrive in time to be actually used on the screen or speaker?<br>
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    Jack Haverty<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/14/23 09:25, Vint Cerf via
      Nnagain wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">if they had not been all together they would have
        been consuming tons of video capacity doing video conference
        calls....
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        <div>:-))</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at
          10:46 AM Livingood, Jason via Nnagain <<a
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          wrote:<br>
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                <p class="m_-4202590720839925089MsoPlainText">On the
                  subject of how much bandwidth does one household need,
                  here's a fun stat for you.</p>
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                    style="font-size:14pt;color:black">At the IETF’s<span
class="m_-4202590720839925089apple-converted-space"> </span><a
                      href="https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/118/"
                      title="https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/118/"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">118th
                      meeting</a><span
class="m_-4202590720839925089apple-converted-space"> </span>last week
                    (Nov 4 – 10, 2023), there were over 1,000 engineers
                    in attendance. At peak there were 870 devices
                    connected to the WiFi network. Peak bandwidth usage:</span><span
                    style="color:black"></span></p>
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style="margin-top:0in;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"
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                    style="color:black;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in">
                    <span style="font-size:14pt">Downstream peak ~750
                      Mbps</span></li>
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                    style="color:black;margin-top:0in;margin-bottom:0in">
                    <span style="font-size:14pt">Upstream ~250 Mbps</span></li>
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                <p class="m_-4202590720839925089MsoPlainText">From my
                  pre-meeting Twitter poll (<a
href="https://twitter.com/jlivingood/status/1720060429311901873"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                    class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://twitter.com/jlivingood/status/1720060429311901873</a>):<span
                    style="color:black"></span></p>
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          <div>Please send any postal/overnight deliveries to:</div>
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            <div>Vint Cerf</div>
            <div>Google, LLC</div>
            <div>1900 Reston Metro Plaza, 16th Floor</div>
            <div>Reston, VA 20190</div>
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          <div>until further notice</div>
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