<html><head></head><body style="zoom: 0%;"><div dir="auto">Sorry, this isn't a very good technical analysis. It's a push agenda for AQM. I get that many people's egos are tied to their belief that my algorithm came down from God himself. It's not true though. <br><br><br></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote" >On Dec 10, 2023, at 3:12 AM, Sauli Kiviranta via Nnagain <<a href="mailto:nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net" target="_blank">nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="blue">I find it alarming for the future of internet that there is a trend to<br>use elbowing techniques to squeeze metrics out at the expense of all<br>other flows. We know that when nobody plays fair the arms race ends<br>badly.<br><br>Best regards,<br>Sauli<br><br>On 12/10/23, Frantisek Borsik via Nnagain <nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"> Well, to be completely honest, I would say its about general public, really<br> - it’s an article in The Verge :-)<br><br> But yeah. Here’s something they should address:<br><br> <a href="https://github.com/heistp/l4s-tests#key-findings">https://github.com/heistp/l4s-tests#key-findings</a><br><br> In general - a potential harm to innocent bystanders is a biggest L4S<br> problem:<br> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/posts/frantisekborsik_jonathanmorton-l4s-ietf118-activity-7128317873571176448-GWAX">https://www.linkedin.com/posts/frantisekborsik_jonathanmorton-l4s-ietf118-activity-7128317873571176448-GWAX</a><br><br><br><br><br> All the best,<br><br> Frank<br> Frantisek (Frank) Borsik<br><br> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik">https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik</a><br> Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714<br> iMessage, mobile: +420775230885<br> Skype: casioa5302ca<br> frantisek.borsik@gmail.com<br><br><br> On Sun, 10 Dec 2023 at 5:48 AM, Matt Mathis via Nnagain <<br> nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;"> About L4S<br><br> <a href="https://www.theverge.com/23655762/l4s-internet-apple-comcast-latency-speed-bandwidth">https://www.theverge.com/23655762/l4s-internet-apple-comcast-latency-speed-bandwidth</a><br><br> It says something about their target audience that they feel they need to<br> explain bytes vs bits.<br><br> Thanks,<br> --MM--<br> Evil is defined by mortals who think they know "The Truth" and use force<br> to apply it to others.<br><hr><br> Matt Mathis (Email is best)<br> Home & mobile: 412-654-7529 please leave a message if you must call.<br><br><hr><br> Nnagain mailing list<br> Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net<br> <a href="https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain">https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain</a></blockquote><br><br></blockquote><hr><br>Nnagain mailing list<br>Nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net<br><a href="https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain">https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/nnagain</a><br></pre></blockquote></div></body></html>