<div dir="auto">Thanks, Robert. Exactly what I meant. Therefore I added NN list, because Nathan was engaging with us there, and with Dave (me and some others, to my knowledge) either directly or via his staffers and he really wanted to catch up on tech things that are the culprits of Net Neutrality (bufferbloat.)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So instead of assuming that Nathan Simington and Brendan Carr are “bought” as someone did, I can the FCC itself as an entity can be understaffed at worse.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But still, I appreciate efforts to learn about what’s going in here and getting it right.<br clear="all"><br clear="all"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">All the best,<br><br>Frank<br>Frantisek (Frank) Borsik<br><br><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik">https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik</a><br>Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714 <br>iMessage, mobile: +420775230885<br>Skype: casioa5302ca<br><a href="mailto:frantisek.borsik@gmail.com">frantisek.borsik@gmail.com</a><br></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 14 Dec 2023 at 3:46 AM, Robert McMahon <<a href="mailto:rjmcmahon@rjmcmahon.com">rjmcmahon@rjmcmahon.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div style="zoom:0%"><div dir="auto">I think this common in that appointment of commissioners go through a political process. The FCC has a technology group, too. When I worked with them about 8 years ago, they had skilled researchers on staff and a highly skilled director. They asked good questions about engineering decisions, like what is limiting the number of mimo streams on devices.<br><br></div>
<div dir="auto">Their physical facility is a bit dated, and they don't get stock grants. I respect the engineers I worked with for what they did.<br><br></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote"></div></div><div style="zoom:0%"><div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 13, 2023, at 2:38 PM, Frantisek Borsik via Nnagain <<a href="mailto:nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net" target="_blank">nnagain@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>> wrote:</div></div><div style="zoom:0%"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"></blockquote></div></div><div style="zoom:0%"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">
<div dir="auto">I would love for Nathan to be here with us, and comment on that :-) so I will add NN list as well.</div><div dir="auto"><br clear="all"><br clear="all"><div dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">All the best,<br><br>Frank<br>Frantisek (Frank) Borsik<br><br><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/frantisekborsik</a><br>Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp: +421919416714 <br>iMessage, mobile: +420775230885<br>Skype: casioa5302ca<br><a href="mailto:frantisek.borsik@gmail.com" target="_blank">frantisek.borsik@gmail.com</a><br></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 13 Dec 2023 at 11:21 PM, Richard Roy <<a href="mailto:dickroy3777@comcast.net" target="_blank">dickroy3777@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">
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[mailto:<a href="mailto:starlink-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net" style="font-family:Tahoma" target="_blank">starlink-bounces@lists.bufferbloat.net</a>] <b style="font-family:Tahoma"><span style="font-weight:bold;font-family:Tahoma">On Behalf Of </span></b>Frantisek Borsik via Starlink<br>
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<b style="font-family:Tahoma"><span style="font-weight:bold;font-family:Tahoma">Subject:</span></b> [Starlink] FCC Upholds
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claiming they saw a path for the company to improve its speeds before the first
deployment deadline in 2025.”<u style="font-family:Arial"></u><u style="font-family:Arial"></u></span></font></p>
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a path” is because they were bribed/conned into to see it. In my nearly 50years
of experience dealing with the FCC, extremely rarely are the people at the top
in the commission tech savvy. In general, they have NO CLUE when it comes to
technology … period! </span></font></i></b><b><i><font size="2" face="Wingdings" style="font-family:Wingdings;color:rgb(0,0,128)"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Wingdings;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic;color:navy">JJ</span></font></i></b><font size="2" face="Arial" style="font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,128)"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><u style="font-family:Arial"></u><u style="font-family:Arial"></u></span></font></p>
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